Good ole Segs

BigD5

After seeing a couple of posts concerning Segs, I figured I may as well head on over to Ebay and take a peak............I think this coin was 5-10 listings down the page. Didn't take long to find a doozy. I know funny stuff can be found in anyone's holder, but it's quick with these guys.

*One sidenote, If strapped down and forced to pick, sight unseen between a Segs slabbed coin and a newer PCI slabbed coin I would go with the Segs piece!

lordmarcovan

WTH does that label say? The picture is so fuzzy I can't read it!!

kranky

I think the label says
White (or maybe Wiped?) Obverse
Toned Reverse

braddick

SEGS proves, once again, this hobby DOES have a sense of humor.

Only problem is they aren't always funny on purpose.

Dog97

That's strange-a SEGS slab with a toned coin that's some other color besides black & brown.

BigD5

I figure the original owner did a little scrub-a-dub-dub, then took out the ole blowtorch......whalla!
Sent the thing off to Segs as a joke, and crapped his pants when the only "problem" designation the coin received was "obv. wiped".

lathmach

How can you tell all this with the picture as bad as it is?
I can't.

Ray

wingedliberty

My favorite SEGS label quotes.

"Lite" , as in Miller Lite.
"specimint", as opposed to specimen
"wised" as opposd to wizzed.


Has anyone seen other funny ones?


Brian.

Conder101

Your condemning SEGS based on an eBay auction that uses a lousy picture where the coin (and the slab)can't be seen clearly? Does this mean that if we can find an eBay auction with a fuzzy picture of a PCGS slab then that company must not be any good either?

nwcs

I did some tricks to see if I could read it. The second word, "Reverse" is pretty clear. Can't tell what the first word is. But just in case someone is better able to decipher SEGS labels that I, here is my altered pic of the label.

dorkkarl

dude, i hate to say it but the example you used flies in the face of what i think your trying to prove. segs designated prob's for the coin, something pcgs & ngc are AFRAID to do, as far as anyone can tell.

kudos to segs on that one.

K S

BigD5

I guess I'm condemning them because the coin seems, to me anyways, to be blatantly blowtorched, and they notate the coin as "wiped", to heck with the AT notation. I guess it MAY be originally toned, but I'll stick to my guns with the "blowtorch" opinion.
As far as "telling" anything, all I did was offer my opinion on what may or may not have happened to the coin. I haven't seen a ton of coins only wiped on one side, so my ASSUMPTION would be that the coin had been cleaned (take your pick to the method) and then an attempt at recoloring the coin took place.
Fuzzy picture, or clear picture, I think they goofed on the AT designation. My opinion. Concrete proof? Just my opinion. You can agree or disagree.
You may like the idea of them notating the problems of a coin on the holder, and I do too, to be quite honest, but from the slabs I've seen, they don't get it correct a lot of times. I guess that's where my beef is, more than their actual slabbing of problem coins.

dorkkarl

i guess the bottom line here, as is always the case, is that it's just an opinion. however, i would find icg, ngc & pcgs much more palatable if they would list known prob's on their holders.

K S

Pushkin

I think a little less use of anecdotal examples to condemn an entire company, seller or whatever would be more appropriate. As has been pointed out here and on many other posts, examples of opinionated grading, poor grading, poor quality pictures, etc. are not grounds for blanket condemnation. Every grading service, seller, and I dare say, human being, makes mistakes. Perhaps we should be a little less hasty to burn witches and issue condemnations based on one or a few isolated incidents.

Try putting one's self in the position of the accused first - are you ready to face the executioner because your only transgression was walking on the grass, or having the wrong-shaped nose?

Why is condemnation so much easier for people to do than the offering of a little empathy, or even praise?

I don't want to make a gigantic issue of this. But should all of this condemnation that we see on this forum eventually contribute to the total loss of decency and civility in our society, the rise of dictatorial governments, persecution of millions of innocents, and the eventual decline and collapse of human civiliztion as we know it, then perhaps we would be better to be just a little more tolerant.

Thank you for your attention. The cat is taking his 2nd afternoon nap - I just hope the thought police don't knock on the door and take him away - all because of a possibly misgraded, perhaps AT'd, coin.

airplanenut

Was it Lordy who posted the segs slab that said BASIL STATE REVERSE instead of BASAL?

Pushkin

Wasn't it nasal? With those little black spots?

Flash

The label says "Toned Reverse".