1964D Washington double die rev? Links to big pics

nwcs

As I was going through the quarters I got from coindaughter, I found one that caught my eye on closer inspection. I don't know if this is double struck or a double die. Anyone got any ideas? The doubling is only on the reverse (wouldn't a double strike be on both sides?) and most notable in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA but is in a few other places. I'm including links to the biggest images I can make with my digital camera. Any ideas are welcome.

Neil

Picture 1
Picture 2

You'll notice it most readily on the T and O

nwcs

Anyone got any ideas?

RJB

From what I can see in the pictures, machine doubling seems to be the cause. It does not appear to be hub doubling. BOB

nwcs

So one of those doublings that isn't worth a whole lot?

Spinynorman

Hi nwcs, no, machine doubling rarely gives a coin extra value. It could be argued that it never should, but, never say never...

Here are some pics of a 1964D DDR that I found a while back. You can see how there is clear definition between the two hubbings.




This doubled die has a bigger spread than most. An average one will look more like the spread in the top picture, just having notching on the serifs. Good luck hunting!

nwcs

How can you tell the difference between machine doubling and hub doubling? My quarter doesn't look all that different from the pics you showed. What do you look for when evaluating the two?

LanLord

Machine doubling is usually shown as a flattened "shoulder" next to a letter or number. This is where the die bounced during the strike. In hub doubling you should have a full, sometimes rounded secondary image of a number or letter shifted next to the original.

Hope this helps a bit.

RJB

If you look at the bottom of the letters on the DDR example you will see complete seperations of the serifs. Machine doubling leaves a secondary image that is flat and shelf-like. There are no valleys or furrows between the images. If you tilt the coin you will see the area between the images is shiny. This is the light reflecting off of sheared metal from the damage that occurs to the coin when the doubling occurs. Therefore this is considered a mint damaged coin and commands no premium. BOB

dorkkarl

agree w/ machine doubling