Who's looking for an 1815 Half?

goose3

I know one of you guys out there is.....just can't remember who.

dorkkarl

holy mama moses!!! who's NOT looking for a 15/2 ???

K S

MastaHanky

oh damn! I know several people who will be all over that.

DHeath

I've made my wish. Let's see if it's under my pillow in the morning!

Russ

Whenever I see a raw coin that valuable listed, I have to ask myself why it hasn't been submitted for grading. For the $30 slabbing fee, the seller could realize a lot more money for the piece.

Russ, NCNE

goose3

My thoughts exactly Russ. Sure looks nice though!

JimD

Now that you have brought up the subject, I have been looking for an 1815/2 for my date set as it is the only year I am missing in the Capped Bust series. Unfortunatly, I have just returned to work after a five week absence due to surgery. So it will probably be early next year before I have the money in place, once again, to fill that empty spot.

I agree with the above comments about the risks in buying a key date, such as this one, that have not been graded by PCGS or NGC.

lordmarcovan

Russ, the "why the heck is this thing raw?" question also went through my mind...

Nice-looking dream coin, though!

dorkkarl

<< <i>Whenever I see a raw coin that valuable listed, I have to ask myself why it hasn't been submitted for grading. For the $30 slabbing fee, the seller could realize a lot more money for the piece >>

i do not agree at all. in fact, i seriiously believe the opposite is true - where bust halves & early copper are concerend. all (& i do mean ALL) the bust-half-nuts & eac-ers i know sneer at plastic & will literally pay less for such coins. i think it's a psychological thing, because the plastic company, by stamping their "approval rating" on the coin, is telling the bust-half-nut that his opinion is secondary to that of the plastic company, and they hate that.

most people willing to pony up $ for 1815 are plenty well versed in grading these coins & frankly don't need the approval of a grading service. note that the coin is offered w/ a solid return policy, so really the coin is being offered sight-seen.

my bet: the coin will easily sell for a premium as-is w/out any plastic surrounding it.

K S

dorkkarl

followup: 2 nuts are already bidding on the coin, 9 bids in 18 hours @ 1750 - not bad for an uncertified coin!

K S

KlectorKid

he says it hasnt been cleaned but im not so sure.. look at the stars, and her mouth. But its a beautiful high grade Key date non-the-less

JimD

dorkkarl,
What you are saying is certainly true if you can inspect the coin in person. The problem many of us have is we are not able to inspect the coin in person unless we buy it. This particular coin, if graded by PCGS or NGC, would probably bring $3000+ if sold in a major auction. While the plastic does not magicaly change the coin, it does mean a knowledgable person has inspected the coin in person and found no major problems that can be hidded and undectable in an image. There is, however, the possibility that the BHN's bidding on this coin have inside knowledge on this particular coin.

dorkkarl

hey jimd, the argument i would make is that it is in-effect a sight-seen coin, because the seller is offering a full return. ie, you buy it, you see it, then you decide if you want it or not. you probably are right about bhnc members maybe having inside info on this, but i just seriously doubt this coin would bring more in any auction in a plastic holder. sometime, go & check out the results of a bhnc auction. you will find coins going for well-above "commercial grade" retail - & it's on a much smaller venue. few of the coins offered are slabbed. it's a case where in-depth knowledge on the part of the bhnc members takes precedence over 3d party "generic" grading.

these are just my opinions, but i have, uh, "significant" experience on the inside w/ these auctions. believe me, plastic means diddly when a significant coin like this comes to market.

1 more thing, i vehemently disagree with the statement that "knowledgeable" graders at pcgs or ngc will grade the coin. their grading is extraordinarily inconsistent in grading early copper & bust coins (ie. open-collar strikes), as they will not grade by variety. (actually, i think ngc will, but most don't pay the extra 10 bucks or whatever for it, which they SHOULD.)

i predict right now: the coin on ebay will EXCEED $3000, UN-SLABBED.

K S