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A caveat about a current eBay auction for a high grade Kennedy half.

RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
Let me say first, that I don't have any real evidence that there's a problem here. This seller, who appears to have no coin history at all, may have actually lucked in to two of these right in a row. But, the hairs are standing up on the back of my neck, so I figured I'd better point this one out for anyone who may be looking at it:

1968 PCGS PR69DCAM Kennedy half.

No scans, no cert number, new seller and money orders only. Now, that in and of itself, might not be enough to make the alarm bells go off, BUT, he just had the same thing close a few days ago:

The first listing for a 1968 PCGS PR69DCAM Kennedy.

When the first auction was running, I eMailed him and asked for scans of the coin. He never answered. I've also eMailed him and asked for scans for the new auction. We'll see if he responds.

This could simply be a case of the first buyer backing out, and the first coin being relisted. I don't know. But, these don't come up that often, and bring pretty good money when they do, so I felt a cautionary note was in order for those of you looking for one in high grade.

Russ, NCNE

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  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    baaaaaah, who looks at those anyways.

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    K S
  • prooflikeprooflike Posts: 3,879 ✭✭
    Ask for the pcgs cert # and try to enter it in your registry to see if the coin is clear.

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    prooflike,

    If he would have responded to my request for scans, I'd have the cert number.

    Russ, NCNE
  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Prooflike, there is a place on the PCGS site to verify the cert number without having to try it in your Registry set.
    Doug
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    ummmmm ohhhhhh RUSSSSS

    I know dis guy, lives a town over from me, stay away, bad news
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  • Hello again, I saw your post and I have been trying to figure out how to scan coins so they come out right clear and good color and of the correct size etc. to e-mail or post to people who might like to see them. I have been doing a lot of scanning and testing but having a little problem with getting the coins to show up clear and detailed. If you can explain the best way to do it I would like to try and get a few scans. Also, do you specialize in Kennedy's? The few times I have been able to sit down and try to learn from the pro's I see your posts about the Kennedy halves.
    swissmiss45
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Bill,

    I just heard back from him on my request for pics of the coin. Of course the answer was that he didn't have any way to scan it. So, I asked him for the cert number. I'll see if he responds with it.

    Russ, NCNE
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Well, he just responded with a cert number: 5605481 Funny thing is, that number belongs to a 1969 coin, not a 1968 as his auction claims. I called him on it, we'll see how he responds. Could just be an honest mistake.

    Russ, NCNE
  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just love intrigue . . . does he go by the name Deb ??????

    I will withhold judgement until there are "facts", so I don't offend. It sure looks like Russ has smoked one out in the early stages, by following the rule "If it sounds too good to be true . . . "
    Doug
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Okay, just heard back from him again with what - at least on the surface - seems like a plausible explanation:



    << <i>Hi Russ,
    The auction should be for a 1969-S-PCGS-PR-69 Deep Cameo.I just sold a 1968-S PCGS-PR-69-Deep Cameo.I am 77 And getting old I guess.Sorry for the mix up.I am going to make the date change.Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
    Jack >>



    Could be just an honest mistake. Still not one I'll be jumping on, though.

    Russ, NCNE

  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,777 ✭✭✭
    It could be true.... or it could be a shiester who wants his explainations to be plausible. It will be interesting to see if he gets a positive feedback from the last sale.
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  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    umm, Russ, could you just be making sure nobody else bids on it, so you can get a bargin??? (just kidding) I have this tendency to trust everyone, and what is the worst that can happen, some guy runs a rippoff? If he does the negative will pile up quickly. He only has 9 positives, so it looks like he just started selling stuff on e-bay. We all had to start with (0).image

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  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since he put it that way, it does not ring like a scam, though. Not a mistake a scammer would intend, unless he never intends to mail it. But of course I could pull out a valid cert number for you even though I don't have a set. I would look at other ebay auctions or past auction lots and pick up a cert number there. And if I couldn't find a 68-S, I would pull a 69 and say I made a mistake on the auction . . . .

    That's the trouble with buying on Ebay. Unless you have a darn good idea who the seller is, it's just a crap shoot.
    Doug
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>could you just be making sure nobody else bids on it, so you can get a bargin??? >>



    Now, that I think about it.image Actually, though, since it's now a 1969, I'd be more likely to be interested in it, (if I wasn't the very suspicious type). I already have two '68's in 69DCAM, but only one '69 in that grade.

    Russ, NCNE
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570


    Actually if you want a 1968 PR69DC I've got one up on eBay.

    1968-S Silver Kennedy 50c PCGS PR69DCAM

    It's a nice coin. I had it in my Modern Proof Registry Set.

    I bought it from Rick Tomaska of R&I. Need I say more?

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Relayer,

    Saw your listing but, as I noted above, I already have two in 69DCAM for that year.image

    Russ, NCNE

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