Let's play guess the "CAM".

Russ

Coin #1:



Coin #2:



These two coins were graded on the same submission. They may both be CAMs, they might neither be CAMs, or one might be and the other not. So, which is it?

Russ, NCNE

jakemrjr

I say neither are cam

RGL

The 67 went CAM, the 65 did not ...

KlectorKid

1967 is cam and the 1965 is not

BNE

Agree with RGL and KlectorKid, but I am also expecting a "twist."

Russ

BNE,

Now, why would you expect a twist?

Russ, NCNE

FrattLaw

I'll go out on a limb and say the 65 is CAM and the 67 is DCAM.

Michael

oops - didn't read Russ's whole message, my bad.

fcloud

I'm going with the twist. 65 cam 67 not. I think it's the lighting.

Tony

Russ

fcloud,

Coins were shot with precisely the same lighting and camera settings.

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clevegreg

The devices on both LOOK Cam, but I can't really tell how the mirrors are on the coins. Since this is play the game, I will say the 67 is CAM and the 65 is not.


Greg

relayer

I'm going to pretend I submitted them, so that means NEITHER are CAM

fcloud

Russ,

Okay, even though the lighting is the same, I am sticking to my choice even if I'm wrong. I made my choice...

I'll check back later to see what you have...


Tony

oldcameoproofsguy

It looks like both coins are a solid CAM. The reverse of coin #2 looks DCAM but the obverse looks too weak to get a DCAM therefore the CAM designation.

Either way those are two really sweet SMS Halfs. SMS coinage with that level of cameo contrast is a real find!!!! The 1965 is especially difficult in gem CAM.

Cool coins Russ.

oldcameoproofsguy

By the way did I tell you that I really love heavy cameo SMS coinage?

Well I really do!

Rover

Coin 2 is the CAM.

PhillyJoe

Hmmmmmm. Knowing Russ as we do, (do we?) I'll say neither went cam. I'm still workimg on the twist.

Joe

robertpr

Sorry Russ, neither look CAM to me. Well, they do, with your wonder photography, but compensating for that I'd say neither are cam. The fields are just not deep enough. Hmm, then again, they could be ACG DCAMS no?

edited to mention that I see too much frost break on BOTH obverses.

ClarkOfKent

I don't see no steenkin' CAM... just shiny metallic thingies. Seriously, though... I don't think either are CAM.

Clark

BlueCole

neither.

But hewy, if i could grade correctly, i'd make a lot of money.

B.

LanLord

I think I'll agree with some of the early posts. The 1965 no cam, the 1967 cam.

ChrisMiller

They are both dcams

robertpr

And if PCGS doesn't agree with my assessment, send them back for a regrade because they got it wrong

DCAMFranklin

There are no Cameos in those pictures.

Russ, you complaining about PCGS' grading practices again?

DHeath

Sup Russ!

Best guess is they no-cam'd both coins. I see pretty nice light cameo on both obverses, and iffy mirrors. The reverses look pretty good. PCGS is all over the road with these coins, so they may have cam'd them, but I'd guess no to both. Still, I like both coins. I'd be happy to store them for you.

lincolnSence

65 - dcam, 67 nada

goyankeez

Both received the "CAM" designation.

Based on the pictures, that's my guess.

Geoman

I bet neither came back as CAM's.

-Geoman

danarchy

I dont think the 65 would get a cameo. Frost break in "USoA" The 67 not sure, cheek looks brilliant, could ne the pic tho. Also the "1" and "h" in half. Sux to not get a cam on that kind of coin.

1956Quarter

There both CAMS but not DCAMS.

CarlWohlforth

If the '65 isn't cam I would pay (a little) more than brilliant pricing for it. The reverse of the '67 looks nice!

Russ

Those who guessed the 1967 as CAM and the 1965 as no CAM are correct.



<< <i>There are no Cameos in those pictures.

Russ, you complaining about PCGS' grading practices again? >>



DCAMFranklin,

You were, of course, wrong on both counts. I didn't submit these coins, I bought them cheap. Like I said before, you should stick to Franklins.

Russ, NCNE

ClarkOfKent

I do loves a good mystery!

Russ

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keets

man, i think i'm seeing double!!!!!!

al h.

MAULUMALL

The way PCGS is going 1 is a morgan the other is bodybaged for being real.

DCAMFranklin

Keets, you're not seeing double. These 2 coins are not the same coins pictured in the other thread. Or Russ is lying. Russ claimed in this thread that the coins were his. Russ claimed the 2 coins in the other thread were from the same submission form and being offered by R&I. The pictures on the other thread were from an R&I auction.

Russ

DCAMTroll,

You're an idiot.

Russ, NCNE

DCAMFranklin

Russ-
More name calling? Your lack of class and character is surpassed only by your lack of knowledge. Nothing to contribute? Call names!

Russ

DCAMTroll,

I was wrong, you're not smart enough to be an idiot. You're a moron.

Russ, NCNE

DCAMFranklin

Totally classless! Left any neutral feedback for a paltry 12c Postage Due lately??

ClarkOfKent

DSCAM,

The other thread clearly states:

<< <i>Both of the above coins were recently listed by R&I. >>


"Recently listed by R&I" is not the same as "being offered by R&I".

Russ, he's not an idiot or a moron.... just a 1st Class A-Hole.

Clark

DCAMFranklin

Clark-
You've been made the fool of, again. Go to the other thread and you will find the answer. The coin IS being auctioned by R&I currently. Foolish boy!

Russ

<< <i>Go to the other thread and you will find the answer. The coin IS being auctioned by R&I currently. >>



Clark,

Check the other thread. He just made a complete buffoon of himself.

Russ, NCNE

DCAMFranklin

Hey Russ, you gonna leave 'em neutral feedback if they mail the package 12c postage due?

Russ

DCAMTroll,

What? No explanation as to why you can't tell the difference between two coins that are clearly not the same? You talk a lot of trash, but it's clear to all that you know nothing. You hide and take pot shots, all the while claiming your expertise and bragging about your eBay prowess, yet are too much of a coward to even provide your eBay handle (if you've even ever made an eBay sale).

You're a gutless little puke who wouldn't even have the stones to open your mouth in the real world. A keyboard jockey, cowering in Grandma's basement surrounded by porno mags and smelly bed sheets.

Keep blabbering. Not that you had any credibility to begin with, but with every keystroke you diminish it.

Russ, NCNE

ClarkOfKent

DSCAM,



<< <i>The coin IS being auctioned by R&I currently. Foolish boy! >>





<< <i>Nothing to contribute? Call names! >>



Complaining about name-calling while doing it yourself in the same thread. And, on top of that, calling me foolish when it turns out that you're the one playing the fool. You're wrong about the coin you linked to. Any chance you'll admit it? A$$HOLE.



<< <i> Hey Russ, you gonna leave 'em neutral feedback if they mail the package 12c postage due? >>



You posted that one AFTER it was pointed out to you that it was the wrong coin. That, and the fact that NOBODY has even bid on the coin you linked to, which kinda negates any postage issues. Having problems following the thread, or just conveniently overlooking little details like... oh, let's call them FACTS!? A$$HOLE.


Your bestest buddy in the whole world,

Clark