Depends if it's a good price or not Usually I would guess the color is darker than in real life but it looks like the picture is pretty accurate since the slab itself is bright. There might be some color to it other than mud brown that dosen't appear in the picture. I would pass on it myself it does look original I just don't care for coins that dark myself.
for me it could be a great coin!!!! the problem is the crappy scan this coin needs to be sight seen! now if there is a no questions asked return priviledge then it is worth it to bid! you might want to contact the seller if the coin doesnot sell and ask to be able to see the coin in person with a full return prioviledge
it might be a great coin maybe not but it is a shot in the dark so to speak with the scan this coin needs to be sight seen!
sooooooooo being an imperfect world i guess it is a difficult decsison to make but the cgoice is yours alone! it might sell and maybe not it might be a good great! coin and maybe not................. you might bid and get it and it turns out great!!!!!! or it might be a crappy coin
Haven't got into dimes yet. I could say hope the coin looks better than the scan Scan is fuzzy. But knowing how to look at these toned barbers I could imagine tilting this in the light and seeing decent luster and some colors.
So I guess the answer to your question is it's original, and would need to see it up close to tell if it's pretty.
Stman
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The toning is original and nice, there is no doubting that.
Everyones taste in toning is going to vary a little or a lot. My favorite toning for the classic series is by far colorful album (bulls eye) toning that is even on the obverse and reverse. It's just my taste. I will usually hold out for those examples.
Some collectors like coins that scream originality. This coin really does that.
Baseball - Sorry. You are correct. Let me rephrase that from "blast white" to "white". Very few blast white examples exist. Most are off-white, have that flat, over-dipped look, or have uneven ugly toning.
But this one, Oh La La ! It's a keeper!
That's exactly what 100 year old silver should look like: O R I G I N A L !!!!
Dave
Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
And even these photographs don't bring out all the color in the toning (the purple, violet, blue, etc. that just didn't come through in the picture).
The longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice is it possible for an empire to rise without His aid? Benjamin Franklin
Dog-from the picture I think it's hard to tell and with that type of toning you probably won't know what it really looks like until you have it in your hand. I just sold a pci 1910 ms64 on ebay for $115 with a dark tone. Barber dimes seem to be going real cheap these days maybe wait to the auction ends and offer the guy less money if nobody else bids. this method has worked good for me lately. mike
Thanks for your thoughts. There's no right or wrong opinion that I was looking for. I know a handful of the members collect Barbers and I was just wondering who likes what. I'm not bidding either so if anybody wants it go for it.
oldcameoproofsguy says it's screaming originality-yeah it's screaming ugly too. I can appreciate the originality of it but most original Barber tone is just too dark for me because it obscures the coin details.
I have one similiar, the 1912 on attachment but at least it's lighter on the portrait and don't look real bad. The 1892 on attachment is closer to my version of a pretty Barber toner. I have it because it is an error, there's 2 cuds on the top wheat leaves and an upside profile of Liberty on the rev where the die clashed. The tone is a bonus.
Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
If you are not sure whether the tonning is attractive then it isn't. You are the one who is going to buy and own it. If you are not sure now, when buyer's excitment strikes, you are not likely to come to love it later on.
My personal opinion, for what its worth, and it ain't worth much since you far more knowledgable than I am: I don't like dark coins, especially charcoal gray or brown. Those are my prejudices, so, I don't see anything attractive about this coin. I'd rather have a dipped white one so long as it was not lack luster from dipping.
Too dark for my tastes, but then again, I am not a toned Barber collector (my icon coin is much whiter in person than it appears in the little pic to the left).
Nevertheless, that one is a pretty coin, and might have some nice colors that the scan didn't show.
Dog, that 1892 you attached looks sweet. I like it. But even that pr66 barber quarter I posted a while back might look ugly, but tilting it it's pretty.
Stman
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Thanks for the good words on the 92! Another board member, boiler78 sent me that. He said he knew I did errors so here take this. I really like it. Normally I would take a dipped white Barber over the toned 1912 but the only reason I bought it was because I had a Modern Type Registry Set at the time so I needed a Barber minted after 1900 and the originality meant something to me even though the numerical grade on the slab is what really mattered. Like Dave99b I don't care much for off-white, flat, over-dipped look either. For those of you that prefer non-lovely (opinion) original Barber tone that's cool. I like to see collectors that appreciate any kind of Barbers.
Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
I'm sure Dog97 knows what he considers attractive and what he doesn't. The problem with photographs of any coin but toned coins in particular is that it's very difficult if not impossible to get an accurate representation of the coin (especially color) to come through in a photograph. I think Dog97 was trying to get opinions from other members on whether they felt the photograph was an accurate representation of the actual coin. After spent many hours taking photographs of toned coin or comparing photographs to actual coins you being to get a feel for whether a coin that looks terrible in a photograph is a result of the limitations of the photographer or a accurate representation of an ugly coin.
The longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice is it possible for an empire to rise without His aid? Benjamin Franklin
To reply to pmh1nic: Actually the purpose of this thread was to find out what the Barber collectors on this board liked in a coin. I knew there were a handful of Barber collectors here because I have replied to their Barber related posts and traded PMs when they asked me for my opinion on a Barber but I never really knew what Dave99B, lordmarcovan or oldcameoproofsguy liked in a Barber. I knew stman liked original tone and michael liked any kind of high grade Proofs from fresh dies where the devices met the fields at a 90 degree angle without spots or hairlines. And I never knew pmh1nic had any interest in them at all.
Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
I feel this was a very good thread like dog mentions, just to get a feel of what the few toned barber collectors on here like. Now to find one that dog likes thats another issue I always value peoples take on these coins. Too bad images can't produce what the coins really look like in person. All we can do, is with our skills try to imagine what they would be in person.
stman
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I don't see how you can really tell true color from a dull scan. Here are two photos of the same seated half. The colorful one is from the orignial auction catalog. The other is a dealer's photo posted in a resale on ebay. But the question reamins, what does the coin look like in person?
Your 1892 is exactly what I look for at coin shows (in term of color/contrast).
That quarter is WONDERFUL. The reverse is STUNNING. Just wondering, what is it graded?
I pick up only one, maybe two quarters or halves per year, that are similar in toning (if I'm damn lucky). Barbers with that "look" are just not available.
I love to rotate them under natural light. What a show! I have two 92-S PCGS quarters that look like cousins to that thing.
Anyway, PM me when you want to sell it. Save me some shoe leather!
Dave
Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
Didn't mean to put words in your mouth good buddy .
CalGold
Some photographs at first glance may cause the coin to look like nothing special but upon closer inspection show hints of underlying color and luster that may not be readily apparent in a poor photograph. That said I shouldn't have assumed that's what Dog97 was asking opinions about at the state of the thread.
As for the coin in your links, it looks like both photographs depending on the lighting and your angle of view.
Dave99B
Thanks! It's graded by PCGS MS-65. One of these days I'll get rid of the scratches on the slab and take another photograph of the obverse.
The longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice is it possible for an empire to rise without His aid? Benjamin Franklin
I don't collect them but I bet the coin looks better in person and I like toning like that. Yes, it is still going to be dark and not everyone likes that but the scan is so obviously flat and lifeless that I can't help but think the actual coin is better.
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Comments
Both! Nice dime! Sweet obv toning, and the reverse is even nicer. Very refreshing after looking at the blast white versions being passed around.
If that were a '63, for around $110 - $125, I'd buy it (I'm putting a set of NGC 63's together)
Dave
Usually I would guess the color is darker than in real life but it looks like the picture is pretty accurate since the slab itself is bright.
There might be some color to it other than mud brown that dosen't appear in the picture.
I would pass on it myself it does look original I just don't care for coins that dark myself.
it might be a great coin maybe not but it is a shot in the dark so to speak with the scan this coin needs to be sight seen!
sooooooooo being an imperfect world i guess it is a difficult decsison to make but the cgoice is yours alone! it might sell and maybe not it might be a good great! coin and maybe not................. you might bid and get it and it turns out great!!!!!! or it might be a crappy coin
sincerely michael
Nice coin! I bet there's good luster beneath that toning too!
Frank
So I guess the answer to your question is it's original, and would need to see it up close to tell if it's pretty.
Stman
Everyones taste in toning is going to vary a little or a lot. My favorite toning for the classic series is by far colorful album (bulls eye)
toning that is even on the obverse and reverse. It's just my taste.
I will usually hold out for those examples.
Some collectors like coins that scream originality. This coin really does that.
But this one, Oh La La ! It's a keeper!
That's exactly what 100 year old silver should look like: O R I G I N A L !!!!
Dave
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Barber Quarter Obv(excuse the scratches on the slab)
Barber Quarter Reverse
And even these photographs don't bring out all the color in the toning (the purple, violet, blue, etc. that just didn't come through in the picture).
K S
oldcameoproofsguy says it's screaming originality-yeah it's screaming ugly too.
I have one similiar, the 1912 on attachment but at least it's lighter on the portrait and don't look real bad.
The 1892 on attachment is closer to my version of a pretty Barber toner. I have it because it is an error, there's 2 cuds on the top wheat leaves and an upside profile of Liberty on the rev where the die clashed. The tone is a bonus.
My personal opinion, for what its worth, and it ain't worth much since you far more knowledgable than I am: I don't like dark coins, especially charcoal gray or brown. Those are my prejudices, so, I don't see anything attractive about this coin. I'd rather have a dipped white one so long as it was not lack luster from dipping.
Nevertheless, that one is a pretty coin, and might have some nice colors that the scan didn't show.
Stman
For those of you that prefer non-lovely (opinion)
Stman
I'm sure Dog97 knows what he considers attractive and what he doesn't. The problem with photographs of any coin but toned coins in particular is that it's very difficult if not impossible to get an accurate representation of the coin (especially color) to come through in a photograph. I think Dog97 was trying to get opinions from other members on whether they felt the photograph was an accurate representation of the actual coin. After spent many hours taking photographs of toned coin or comparing photographs to actual coins you being to get a feel for whether a coin that looks terrible in a photograph is a result of the limitations of the photographer or a accurate representation of an ugly coin.
Actually the purpose of this thread was to find out what the Barber collectors on this board liked in a coin. I knew there were a handful of Barber collectors here because I have replied to their Barber related posts and traded PMs when they asked me for my opinion on a Barber but I never really knew what Dave99B, lordmarcovan or oldcameoproofsguy liked in a Barber. I knew stman liked original tone and michael liked any kind of high grade Proofs from fresh dies where the devices met the fields at a 90 degree angle without spots or hairlines. And I never knew pmh1nic had any interest in them at all.
stman
Holy cow - Nice quarter. Thanks for the pics.
Your 1892 is exactly what I look for at coin shows (in term of color/contrast).
That quarter is WONDERFUL. The reverse is STUNNING. Just wondering, what is it graded?
I pick up only one, maybe two quarters or halves per year, that are similar in toning (if I'm damn lucky). Barbers with that "look" are just not available.
I love to rotate them under natural light. What a show! I have two 92-S PCGS quarters that look like cousins to that thing.
Anyway, PM me when you want to sell it. Save me some shoe leather!
Dave
Didn't mean to put words in your mouth good buddy
CalGold
Some photographs at first glance may cause the coin to look like nothing special but upon closer inspection show hints of underlying color and luster that may not be readily apparent in a poor photograph. That said I shouldn't have assumed that's what Dog97 was asking opinions about at the state of the thread.
As for the coin in your links, it looks like both photographs depending on the lighting and your angle of view.
Dave99B
Thanks! It's graded by PCGS MS-65. One of these days I'll get rid of the scratches on the slab and take another photograph of the obverse.
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