what would be the hottest card to get your hands on before the season starts?

battier · September 22, 2002 10:37PM

my pick:97-98 skybox cm tracy mcgrady....lmk

JC214 · September 22, 2002 11:20PM

Shaq UD rook

battier · September 22, 2002 11:52PM

do you think that card is gonna be hot?

battier · September 23, 2002 2:53AM

ttt

nikobe · September 23, 2002 3:22AM

kobe chrome refractor or vc sp authentic. Tracy fans will dissapear soon.

battier · September 23, 2002 3:34AM

tmac fans gone?

nikobe · September 23, 2002 3:46AM

not gone, but alot will jump back on the vc wagon next year. You will see.

battier · September 23, 2002 4:03AM

tmac and grant hill this year.....will make tmac cards hot

battier · September 23, 2002 4:05AM

ttt

nikobe · September 23, 2002 4:10AM

tmac and grant hill will only mean tmac will not average as many points just like the start of last year battier. Two scoring options means tmac will have the share the ball and ghill will most likely run the offense. Didn't you even watch the start of last year? Tmac and ghill played the lakers, but you already know who won.

http://www.nba.com/lakers/multimedia/multimedia_2002.html?nav=ArticleList#top

nov 11th

http://www.nba.com/lakers/multimedia/multimedia_2002.html?nav=ArticleList#top

jan 30th

watch both games and see kobe outplay tmac both games including a sick dunk in mike millers grill to ice the game.

Vincecarder · September 23, 2002 4:35AM

I think a card worth getting has got to be Vince Carter's sp authentic. It's at it's lowest price....ever. This guy is going to come back hard and prove all the doubters from last season. Not to long ago people were going nuts for him and didn't even know who Tracy Mcgrady was. Pick him up now because he is going to have a monster season.

As for Mcgrady, I think his numbers are going to go down alittle this year. Grant Hill is looking real good and will want the ball more (he was an allstar longer than T-Mac). I'd say some high grade Grant Hill cards might be worth getting because they have been real cheap due to his injury years. His stuff was very expensive at one point.

Other guys I like are Mike Bibby, Michael Olowakandi, Darius Miles (he's a starter now), Ricky Davis, Baron Davis, Andre Miller, Michael Dickerson and Jason Richardson.

nikobe · September 23, 2002 4:45AM

That's what i'm saying vince. I'd say a vc sp is a good pick up. I picked up a bgs 8.5 for 200. You know it can't lose much more than that. Tracy doesn't really have a card to pick up other than that rookie year autographics, but theres only a 100 of them so..........yeah this is vince carters year to shine or stay home. He has to prove it this year or never. You know that right carder? No more playing around or injurys for carter or his run is over. He has to strut his stuff next year or say good bye to his loyal fans.
I don't doubt him, but he has to have a simply perfect season.

baljitgill · September 23, 2002 4:53AM

I honestly believe that Chris Webber will come out and wanna prove all the critics wrong. Plus he was analyzed for not being clutch during last years playoffs with people saying that he cant lead.

I think he will wanna make a statement this year and go after the MVP award and help his team win a championship.

His cards are a good pickup with them going down this month.

nikobe · September 23, 2002 4:55AM

are you serious? Chris webber will never be mvp. He wouldn't even be mvp if he played in the wnba. Lisa leslie would still out beat him.

baljitgill · September 23, 2002 4:58AM

Why wouldnt he be? He's averages 25, 10 & 5 a night. Plus, he led the Kings to the best record last year. If he duplicates that and adds a little more to his totals, he'll be in the hunt for sure.

rooks · September 23, 2002 5:00AM

his legal problems might be a distraction for him. Hes not the best player on his team anymore anyway. Bibby is the best by far on that team and easily their mvp

baljitgill · September 23, 2002 5:01AM

Bibby is good, but he's not there best. Yes, the distraction will be there but I think that he definitely has something to prove. Bibby is clutch, but Webber is the guy to get them there.

rooks · September 23, 2002 5:03AM

no way. Bibby is the mvp of that team. w/o him they got swept by the lakers, last year he was the difference that allowed the kings to nearly beat the lakers.

baljitgill · September 23, 2002 5:06AM

Last year in the Lakers series, yes.

But who got them there? Webber, Peja and the bench (Bobby Jackson and Hedo Turkoglu).

He did shine and I love Bibby, but one series doesnt make him MVP of the Kings. Maybe that series, but not the team.

If he plays like he did during the playoffs during the regular season, then maybe. It will be a fun season for sure. Cant wait!!

nikobe · September 23, 2002 5:06AM

25 10 and 5 is not mvp stats especially when your #1 option on a team. You want mvp type numbers? Average 32.3ppg 8 rebs 8 assists and shooting 53% from the field and 83% from the line like jordan use too.It's hard to average those type of numbers if you have other go to guys on your team though.

baljitgill · September 23, 2002 5:08AM

Nikobe, MJ is MJ. No one can touch him. But for Webber, getting a triple double every game is possible. You cant say that for many big men in the game today.

nikobe · September 23, 2002 5:16AM

cwebb can average a triple double all he wants, but he will never get big time hobby love, because people want to see a show not boring players like cwebb and tim duncan.

battier · September 23, 2002 5:26AM

webber is ok...but he disappointed me in the playoffs....he choked when it came down to the end....he could have puched shaq in the face did something to ignite his team.. i like webber as a player but as a go to guy give me bibby anyday or even vlade

baljitgill · September 23, 2002 5:27AM

Webber = boring.

Do you know anything about NBA basketball. I think you have been watching way too much WNBA.

Webber can run the floor like a point guard and dish the ball with style. I saw mostly all of the Kings game last year, so I know. The Kings are the most entertaining team to watch. And Webber is part of that show.

battier · September 23, 2002 5:31AM

yeah but things like that dont get you past the lakers....kings were to soft in the last game when you foul shaq you gotta hit him hard...he is a beast but you got to hit him hard

baljitgill · September 23, 2002 5:33AM

Battier, Shaq's a big man. Im sure there hitting him hard, but because he's so big, it doesnt matter.

I guess they could chop him down by the knees...

rooks · September 23, 2002 5:34AM

he could have puched shaq in the face did something to ignite his team.
yeah, he could have done that and gotten suspended. That really would have helped the team.

battier · September 23, 2002 5:35AM

i wanted the kings to win bal...and webber didnt do all he could have done....bibby was the man...and his cards are gonna bang....i like webber and his lady....but still when it comes to the lakers he acts shady

baljitgill · September 23, 2002 5:37AM

Rooks, LMAO

Battier, yeah, thats why I cant wait till this season (hoping Webber isnt in jail). I think this is our year.

nikobe · September 23, 2002 5:42AM

the kings were more exciting with jdubb, but more stable with bibby. Big men can average 30ppg and nobody would care. Look at kareem's career. He has the same amount of rings as jordan, he has more career points than jordan, and nobody gives a crap.

rooks · September 23, 2002 5:56AM

nobody gives a crap cause he has been retired for a while now. In ten years someone else will come along(maybee kobe or someone else)and people will not talk about jordan as much as now. Once your out of the game for a while people just seem to forget.

Undertaker · September 23, 2002 5:59AM

Kings will lose again this year.. Lakers are better than last year (Shaq got rid of his toe injurie, Kobe will be even better, and they got Rush) and will win another one

nikobe · September 23, 2002 6:10AM

rooks that's just called evolution of the game. Back in the 40's 50's was mikan and russell, in the 60's everyone was talking about chamberlain, then the 70's came along and dr.j was the man, then came the 80's and magic and bird took over, then came the 90s were we have the so-called g.o.a.t and now who? shaq?kobe? iverson?vc? one of these guys will be the goat and then so on and so on and so on.............

rooks · September 23, 2002 6:26AM

I dont call forgetting past greats evolution. I call it ignorance.

RockChalk · September 23, 2002 6:32AM

Raef SPx or SP Auth. This is the year he'll break out..

I wish

..He'll be good though!

RockChalk · September 23, 2002 6:38AM

Rush is overrated, and an overall jerk. I don't want to argue about it, but he won't do anything!

NickM · September 23, 2002 6:41AM

Before the season starts, the most limited Yao Ming autographed rookie card will be the hottest card. Just make sure you sell them before the season starts.

Nick

Undertaker · September 23, 2002 6:42AM

lol here's a guy, who thinks that Raef freakin' Lafrentz is a good player, who says that Rush is overrated.. PALEASE!

how on earth can a guy who was drafted 26th be overrated!? LOL

RockChalk · September 23, 2002 6:42AM

I wonder, does Mao sign in Chinese or English?

RockChalk · September 23, 2002 6:48AM

Like I said, I'm not going to argue about it, but I'll just wait 'till the season starts.

About Raef, I don't know who you've watching, but you don't see many 7 footer than can play down-low, put the ball on the floor, or shoot outside. Shaq sure can't. I'm not saying Raefs better than Shaq, no way in hell I'm saying that, but Raef needs the respect he deserves. Raef doesn't have just down-low skills, he can do many things.

Neil

Undertaker · September 23, 2002 6:50AM

let's see.. Nowitzki.. Gasol.. and those are 2 who are WAY better than Lafrentz..

nikobe · September 23, 2002 6:50AM

No rooks I didn't mean we forget about players being evolution, but the game changes and a new player is titled the goat every 10 years. It does suck that people tend to forget what certain players did for the game, but those aren't real fans anyways. They only want who's hot right now and have no knowledge of the game.

BigGameGil · September 23, 2002 7:06AM

well back to the topic of the thread. i think some hot cards will be. Kobe Chrome, VC SP Authentic, Tracy McGrady SP Authentic PSA/BGS 9 or more, and Kobe Ex PSA/BGS or more. The First 2 Are A Given But The Others Will Be Hot If They're Graded Good Cause of the condition factor

battier · September 23, 2002 9:07AM

wagner also...please dont forget that boy....he will be known

JErik20 · September 23, 2002 9:28AM

Damn i like seeing some cards i have on this list. I sur ehope the Carter SP Authentic takes off, as my PSA 10 will really take off. I also have a Miles SPx incoming.

Also, i think the Francis SPx will take off again, or maybe it's wishfulthinking since i have 2, but it's a badass card, and now that he's rid of his shoulder probs and headaches, he should dominate. The Rockets will also be getting a lot more attention because of Ming.

Erik

battier · September 23, 2002 9:32AM

yeah im hoping francis take off also i have a nice on thats gonna shoot

nikobe · September 23, 2002 9:41AM

actually the psa 10 vc sp will never take off to new the heights it once saw, because of the levels it's seeing now. Buyers will be scared he could have a good season and the next who knows. If vc can have a few good seasons in a row and show he is stable then his vc could move big again, but 1 season does not matter. Tmac was scoring 40ppg for a week one stretch and his cards didn't move a penny. Iverson and kobe's 58 and 56 didn't even affect there cards. The only way vc is going to explode is if he wins a bunch of mvp's and reaches the finals, but we all know what happend to iversons cards the very next year he didn't. People are starting to realize this and will back away until the player is not so hot. Kobe will have one of those points soon I hope. Nobody stays hot forever.

what would be the hottest card to get your hands on before the season starts?

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