eBay Marketing : deceit=profit / honesty=loss

relayer

I needed some Ike's for my modern type proof set and thought I would try and make some. I bought two from this seller and when I got them, they were hazed up pieces of crap. I praised the seller and moved on. (Yeah he had a return policy but for the small amount of money I didn't bother).

Since I sell coins on ebay more as a liquidation of my collection instead of for profit, I removed them from his $200 holders, rescanned and described them acturately.

Here are my results:

Before #1
After #1

Before #2
After #2

Oh well, you win some and you lose some (even though I tend to lose more than most)

As long as I'm complaining, I'm going to quit making modern commemoratives for all the nice folks on ebay. I know buying from me is a lot cheaper then getting them yourself from the mint and filling out all the paper work to submit to PCGS but the days of the $30-$40 MS69/PR69DC are over.

But I did get lucky once with my MS 70 listed here and hopefully that will make up for it.

Russ

Relayer,

I am intimately familiar with this situation. I frequently realize far lower prices for the stuff I sell because I actually note any flaws in the coin. But, you know what? I sleep well at night, and I'll bet you do too.

Russ, NCNE

airplanenut

Why didn't you try dipping it?

airplanenut

Just one more question- if you thought the items were inaccurately represented, why did you say that they were as described in the feedback you left?

1jester

Relayer, I'm sorry about your loss. Those pictures look like totally different coins. How did the seller get the coins to look so perfect? Were those flips PVC?

I assume you gave him a positive so as to avoid him giving you a negative?

Good luck in the future.

relayer

OK I didn't know you wanted the long version...

I bought them to try and make PCGS PR69DC. When I got his email notice he said I could pay with paypal for $1.50 fee. I told him that was illegal. He send a few emails talking about how he pays thousands in fees to ebay and he can't make any money selling there, etc.

I send him a check and it took a long time to get the coins. He included a 2001-S 5c proof (marked $8.50 in his flip) saying he was sorry it took so long. The right move would have just been to return them, but I wanted to be done with him at this point.

I would have returned them over giving him a neg. My "Praise" was from my pre-entered feedback, and are my most neutral choice.

Praise : Super ebayer - No Problem deal.

Praise : As advertised and fast shipment

Calling somebody a "Super ebayer" is an insult in my mind. Actually, the transaction was pretty much what I expected.

I gave one non payer a neg once, and then I get an email from his wife 3 months later saying he's been in a coma and was coming home from the hospital next week and she wanted to buy the coin so everything would be just as before he went in. (I sold it).

Who I should have given a neg to was Seylevel. I bought a 2002 Eagle ($7) and after 3 weeks I emailed and got a reply it was sent 2 days earlier. Never showed up.

I looked at the feedback and every neg Seylevel got, they came back with retalitory feedback. So it cost me $7 to avoid a neg. What a wimp

windwhispersintrees

Relayer,
Sorry to hear about what happened. A couple of thoughts:
1. You might have increased the coin's appeal by using bigger, more detailed photos in your auction. Your photos were a bit small, and lacking in contrast.
2. Why didn't you leave neutral feedback, if you didn't want to leave negative? I'd never interpret "super ebayer" as negative or faint praise. But, at least if I saw a recent neutral, I might find it in the sellers feedback and read it.

Dog97

Hmmm...that seller is a member here. His reply could be interesting: Thread by dixfer

copperhead

Sorry to hear of your luck. eBay can be a nasty place to deal at times. At least you will know not to deal with that seller again. I guess that's a rather cheap lesson to learn. GOOD LUCK NEXT TIME!!!!!!!!!!
AL

BSqr

relayer,
I gave a seller a nuetral feedback 'cause the item I received was not the item as advertised. The seller had a hissy fit and 'blocked' me form his auctions. People seem to get so hysterical about those feedback ratings. Also, I think I forgot to let you know that I received the Smithsonian gold. Consider this a positive feedback for a non-ebay transaction.

presleyh

I also bought 2 ikes from dixfer. He listed the first as pr69dcam. I sent it off for grading by pcgs it came back pr65cam. I was pretty miffed.
but once more i bought a 73 Ike he listed as pr69 dcam. I still have it here on my desk. It isnt a dcam by any stretch of the imagination. I wont even try to have it graded. Should I send it back? Yes, but the postage and time factor makes it a losing proposition either way.
Dixfer is way, way out of line in his grading abilities! Lesson learned.

relayer

Thanks Bob. That was a nice coin with a lower mintage - I should have put it in the safe deposit box for a couple of years.

Enjoy!

TheNumish

Looks to me like the guy groke the coin out of a capsule, scanned it and then put the coin in a plastic flip. By the time the coin got to you developed that haze. Maybe he wasn't trying to stick you with a bad coin but it just happened. Coins change so fast in that plastic it's amazing. The coin changed so much this is a logical explanation.