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UncleJoe
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Whatever you want to call it here is my question:
Do you think that a non US Mint coin should be allowed to be listed on eBay under the category of US Coins WITHOUT stating in the auction that it is not a US Mint coin?
Joe.
Do you think that a non US Mint coin should be allowed to be listed on eBay under the category of US Coins WITHOUT stating in the auction that it is not a US Mint coin?
Joe.
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New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
Sure, why not? Just as long as the banner of the ad includes the disclaimer "This ad is a deceptive, deceitful, rip-off, scam designed to make me big bucks by deceiving people who don't know better, as well as widows, orphans, children, the senile, those who pay $6 for a cup of beer, etc. - thank you for your attention. Signed: Mr./Ms. Scallywag." I would respect the honesty of this seller, maybe even buy the coin
Unfortunately, I'm still waiting for this or a similar disclaimer to appear.
Buyers simply need to educate themselves about US Mint coins....there's plenty of free online reference material.
<< <i>Unless ebay states somewhere that the category "US Coins" is only for "US Mint" products, then there's nothing wrong with it.
Buyers simply need to educate themselves about US Mint coins....there's plenty of free online reference material. >>
The "National Collectors Mint" and other similar outfits have never produced a US Coin.
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
should Kentucky tokens, produced in england, be excluded from the US coins section of colonials?
again, it gets tiring to hear how the buyer should be excluded from all responsibility for what he buys. sounds a lot like the old "have you cake & eat it too" cliche.
K S
Neptune- Have you made your suggestion to Ebay? Probably not. Recognize that even if they create such a category, there would be such little traffic, the sellers would still come into USCoins.
that this is a genuine rip off, economic screw and flim flam from the country in question. Bear
Camelot
Many take "US coin" to mean any coin, medal, token etc. made in the United States, not necessarily a product of the US Mint. Yes, they probably ought to list their auctions under "exonumia."
Auctions listed in the wrong category are ebay violations and should be reported as such to ebay, instead of being beat upon here.
And as others have pointed out, anyone who hasn't educated themselves to recognize real US Mint products will be ripped off no matter how or where an auction is listed.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Auctions listed in the wrong category are ebay violations >>
are you sure about that? be interested in a link to where ebay says that. i've seen all kinds of stupid stuff in various coin categories.
K S
If you do not like an item, do not buy it. If the title is mis-leading, but the description is accurate, then big deal. This is what marketing is all about. Ever see those ads that Microsoft puts out calling their products safe, secure and stable? No one seems to mind these mis-leading statements.
How about US minted Philippine coins? Should they be required to be listed in the US section and not in the World/Asia section since they were not minted in the Philippines?
We also minted some of the Canadian coins, better make sure they are listed in the US section and not the Canadian section.
Where should the Royal Oak or Gallery Mint replica's be listed. These are cool, and often collected by the people who would be also searching in the sections for the type of coin they are a replica of.
If someone thinks that a coin listed with the title "1913 Liberty Nickel" is real (or similar), they deserve to lose their money. Same thing for the 1933 Saints etc.
you're danged right it's ok to try to say something in an ad to make the item sound more appealing. which sounds better "worn-out, rust bucket VW beetle" or "VW beetle w/ a lot of solid miles behind it"? bottom line is that a buyer is stupid not to ask questions and make sure that what he's buying is what he wants. it always, always, always seems to come back to buying things SIGHT-SEEN. (2nd best thing is a full-return guarantee). & it's 100% the exact same reason as to why you shouldn't buy coins in plastic sight-unseen.
if someone wants to advertise their smelly, worn socks as "historic clothes worn by a well-loved gentleman", it's fine w/ me as long as i get an honest answer to my question "what's the name of this well-loved gentleman". as a buyer, i take responsibility for finding out exactly what the heck it is i'm buying.
that's just my take on it all. if you really do value your money, ACT like you do! and for chrissake, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for how you spend it. after all, YOUR the one who had to work hard to earn it!!!
K S
if you're getting scammed on ebay it's most likely because you're looking to get something for nothing. if something appears WAY too cheap, there's probably a good reason.
2 Cam-Slams!
1 Russ POTD!
Does that argument apply to a 10 year old child?
Policy: Wrongly categorized items will be moved to an appropriate category.
The above was copied from eBay rules. Does this apply?
Joe.
dunno, sounds like ebay was intentionally a little vague on that 1.
K S
Karl,
Have you ever known eBay to be intentially vague? Are you becomming a cynic?
K S