Need advice on pr69dc Ikes

coinrookie

Got two Ikes from R&I today. You would need a shovel to scrape the frost off. Only problem is there seems to be a lot of little bumps in the field.They are not white. It looks almost like frost from the cameo. Is this a common condition? Would you accept these coins for the heavy frost or would you rather have clean fields?

wallstreetman

How about fields like this? I dont think I would want frost on the fields! I also just bought this 72 from him also. I thought he had some good prices.

presleyh

If the coins are not graded and someone is telling you they are pr 69dcams i think i would send them back unless the fields are perfect. That is a hard grade to get from pcgs on Ikes.

coinrookie

They are graded by PCGS. A 71 and76 type2. The frost on the devices is unreal. but it does have tiny bumps in the fields. These are absolutely jet black and frosty white coins. If you hold the coin about six inches away you cannot see any bumps or flaws even under a bright light. I just wondered if these bumps were a common condition on Ikes

littlewicher

Usually Rick deals in premium quality coins. I got a couple of coins from him in the mail today and they're very nice coins.

BNE

I am not sure whether I am visualizing this correctly.

If these bumps are only visible on magnification, and if they are not frosted, it might not be a significant detraction. I have noted a "bumpy" surface on many very high-grade brilliant proofs, especially on magnification. It has a "sticky" "fly-paper-like" look to it (at least, to me). These kinds of surfaces actually seem to be associated with very high-grade proof coins. I see this less often on cameos, though, which are supposed to have flat "mirrors" that create the black-and-white effect.

If there are odd bumps of frost in the fields, that would be unusual. R&I usually sells good stuff, and you might want to call them if you have a problem. I'm sure they will make it right.

coinrookie

BNE,
You described the coins perfectly. But these are deeep cameo coins. The bumpy surface is only visible if you hold the coin about 2 inches away.

BNE

The input of the Ike guys might be useful, but I would think that thick, thick frost would make up for the surface irregularities. If the bumps are "as struck," like they sound, it shouldn't affect the technical grade, I would think. So it probably comes down to your personal aesthetics. Which do you like more: "still water" fields or hip-deep snow? If the coins have remarkable contrast, I would appreciate the coins for what they are and be pretty confident others would appreciate the eye-appeal, too.

In the end, only you know what you want your set to look like. Please post a picture or link, if you can!

wingedliberty

coinrookie is 100% correct. This is a common effect. I have examined by DCAM Ike's and experienced
the same effect.


Brian.