Wheat CENT Doubling 1958-D Pictures

Apache

Hi everyone,

Finally got a couple of photo's to show of this Wheatie I found.

This is the coin that turned me into an "Error/die variety" collector". Its a big deal to me because of this.....anyhow......

Pic taken with my digital. Lincoln Nose Lips and chin are doubled. Date is obvious in other pic.

Lemme hear what you think about this coin!

Apache

LucyBop

Awesome baby! Lucy would love to have this coin for her 50s collection.

lathmach

You're kidding of course.
That's strike doubling. It's real common.

Ray

66Tbird

Cool, kind of common, and a great picture. It'd still be a keeper in my book.

littlewicher

Too bad it's not a true doubled die. It'd be worth millions! J/K It's a nice coin.

Russ

I don't know anything about the coin, but that is some excellent photography work.

Russ, NCNE

KlectorKid

nice coin and i agree with Russ about the photo

Keyrock

Very nice!!

Where did you find it? An "estate Auction"

Great pictures too.
Rich

KenzoT

What did you use to take the photos?

dpoole

I agree. Exceptional photography! Looks like a strike doubling textbook.

Dog97

WOW!! That is very dramatic mech dbl. Cool.

Spooly

That's neat! Great pic!

richbeat

I agree with the others. That is some dramatic machine doubling to be sure and excellent photography, especially the first photo. You can very clearly see that the doubling is flat and not rounded, a telltale sign of machine doubling. Too bad there's no premium, but I'd sure keep it anyway.

laserart

OK, now I'm a bit confused. What is the difference between a double die and a double strike?

raredeal

laser - A double die coin happens when the doubling is the die itself prior to mintage of the coin. A single stamping of the coin would produce the doubled image.

A double strike (machine doubling) happens when the coin moves slightly after it is struck the first time, so when it is struck the second time the impact of the field on the initial strike flattens the metal that doesn't flow into the die to form the second image.

Apache

Thanks for the photo comments. I have a "fuji-film" digital camera. It is a skill everyone can develop(coin pic taking), not impossible.

PM me if you need techniques for photo taking. Chances are good if your on this forum, and you asked about it, you have the equipment to do it. COPPER is actually very, very, very easy to take photo's/snap shots of and you will be amazed with the right lighting which is free.....hint..hint.... SUNLIGHT. Proof coins are TOUGH to take error pics of because of the mirror surfaces.

OK, thanks for your comments. Please Lemme know if you find one(1958-D Doubled), THEN there will be a POP of #2 known!

Mechanical Doubling, I agree, interestingly, I have studied the different kinds of Doubled Die. The spread works out from the center and finally toward the edges of the coin. Doubled die and Strike/mechanical doubling can both be seen on many coins togehter. Overall, I think its pretty darn cool. I've never looked at another 58-D wheatie the same since I found it.

Strange how the 5 is even where the doubled is, not shelf or flat like. The 1 and 9 are shelved for sure. Anyhow, I've seen lots of different doubling over the years and this one takes the "cake".

I'll post another close up of the Lincoln profile if you guys/gals want to see it.

Also, for Laser...the master hub is at fault when made for some doubled die. Or when the working DIE is made, it could sometimes be "re-squeezed" while the metal was still soft. Therefore when the DIE is used to create a coin, the struck coin will show the error. There are several types of Doubled Die, depending when in the process the error occured to either the Master or working die.

Apache

23 year Combat vet
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gmarguli

A double strike (machine doubling) happens when the coin moves slightly after it is struck the first time, so when it is struck the second time the impact of the field on the initial strike flattens the metal that doesn't flow into the die to form the second image.

A double struck coin is one that has been struck by the dies twice rather than once. These are error coins. However, proof coins and some rare instances of coins intended for circulation have intentionally been struck twice.

A strike doubled (machine doubling) coin is one where the die shifted after the coin was struck and produced a flat shelf-life image. Unless the doubling is dramatic there is no added value. These coins were not struck twice by the die.

laserart

thanks guys, I have often wondered why a coin with a double date such as a 55 lincoln didn't have the entire image doubled.

richbeat

For anyone who is interested, doubled dies are a fascinating subject. There are many classes of doubled dies. For example, the 1955 DDO cent is the most famous Class I rotated hub doubled die. The 1983 DDR cent is a Class IV offset hub doubled die. The latest Cherrypickers' Guide has an excellent section on doubled dies and how they occur. Worth the price of the book for that section alone.