Novelty item is already over $900

dbldie55

Does anyone think this is real?

MULE QUARTER DOLLAR

airplanenut

It's fake... someone's gonna get screwed... NO RETURNS!!! ALL ITEMS AS-IS!!!

Besides, weren't the mules out of Phili, not Denver?

Jeremy

TWQG

Is there a return 'privlage' or not?

kranky

And this seller runs a coin shop? Inexcusable!

Russ

Now, it's over $1500. Why can't eBay do something about this kind of fraud? This seller has plenty of past problems.

Russ, NCNE

zenny

the problem is it takes soooo long and is soooo expensive to get a coin authenticated and slabbed. some dealers just don't have the time and money. hahaha

Russ

Holy crap! Now it's over $2500!

Russ, NCNE

kryptonitecomics

I would agree that my first hunch is that it is fake due to it not being authenticated, but are there any diagnostics that indicate that it's fake?

zenny

it really does look too good to be true. if he had just sent it to acg it would have been put in a nice piece of plastic that said ms-70 and would have only cost a couple bucks. then we wouldn't have to have had this thread because we'd all be so busy bidding furiously on it.

Rampage

I know who the high bidder is. I cannot interfere as stated in eBay's policies. I sure hate to see someone get taken out of that much cash for that 10 dollar coin.

littlewicher

You can see two rims on the obverse.

zenny

rampage - i didn't know there were ebay policies against warning people of possible fraud. what are they?

Russ

Zenny,

Unfortunately, it's against eBay policy to interfere by contacting bidders.

It's not against policy, though, to report the seller to the eBay fraud department, which I just did. I also sent an eMail to the seller asking why he didn't have the coin authenticated. Slabbed, it would be worth HUGE money.

Russ, NCNE

presleyh

What is it? Are you guys saying this guy made it himself?

zenny

Russ

has that always been the policy? i've been warned of stuff in the past, and have done my share of giving heads up! didn't know it was a nono! :-O

presleyh

There is another "mule" auction no. 1379005192 that explains one way to make a "mule". someone milled out the backside of an sba and popped a quarter into it.

Russ

Zenny,

I don't know if it's always been the policy, but a couple months ago I got a warning from eBay after I tried to give a heads up to a bidder who apparently was so offended by my attempt to help that he reported me. In this case, it was yet another seller trying to fob off an Accented Hair Kennedy that wasn't.

Russ, NCNE

TheNumish

Coin looks like a D mint. Aren't all the mules P mint?

braddick

<< <i>What is it? Are you guys saying this guy made it himself? >>



These may be purchased at $11.00 each or two for $20.00 from a box ad in the Numismatic News. Do you want one? -Art Ford, PMB133, 13782 Bear Valley Rd. D3, Victorville, CA 92392 (from the September 10th issue of Numismatic News, page 49, third column for the left, the 10th ad down).
It is a novelty and I even considered buying one (or two) just for fun.

Placid

Look at a "real" mule.




Link to a real mule.

Russ

<< <i>NGC MS-67. Found in a U.S. Post Office vending machine >>



Huh? A coin pulled from a vending machine graded MS67?

Russ, NCNE

66Tbird

My first thought was exactly what the Numish said.

I have a magazine (things you never thought existed) and the exact pic is in it, from what I remember anyway, and it was 19.95.

Dog97

The high bidder is a member of this board and other error clubs. He knows errors. I'm minding my own business.

Bear

Dog - As usual your advice makes a lot of sense. Everyone should back off and settle down.
Let the experts and specialists bidding on the monstrosity work it out. Bear

wingedliberty

The real issue is, that someone has enough confidence to bid on it RAW!!!!
I dont understand peoples cavalier attitude, I guess its the bidders money to throw away.


Brian.

PhillyJoe

The wise bear has spoken; but I wouldn't want to be the buyer or seller on this one!!!!!

Joe

coinkooky

Okay I guess everyone is implying that the coin is bogus, and because of ebay rules none wants to warn the fellow member?

How about a link to the real mule from an anonymous party.

kranky

<< <i>

<< <i>NGC MS-67. Found in a U.S. Post Office vending machine >>



Huh? A coin pulled from a vending machine graded MS67?

Russ, NCNE >>



Certainly wouldn't be common, but not totally far-fetched, actually. I'm guessing new rolls were used to load up the vending machine.

Russ

Now, this is getting interesting. I just heard back from the seller:



<< <i>From: Rlbcoins1@aol.com
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 22:41:11 EDT
Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1379400710
To: sales@compucheap.com
X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10641

This is not real. No the coin is not been certified and yes all mules so far found are from Phil. and this is a Denver mint Mule. Thank-you Randall >>



Emphasis added, so nobody would miss the important part. If he knows it's not real, what the hell is he doing here?

Russ, NCNE

osirisMMII

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!! **hehe** **hehe** **hehe**

Placid

He should have made that clear in the auction. He did start it at $9.99 but still...

wallstreetman

The seller says he will end the auction tommorrow! He is probably interested in seeing how high it would go( how many fools there are).

tompkins

The auction was ended an hour or so ago, "because of an error in the listing".

Pete

JD

The Discovery Channel once did a special on the mint which included a segment on a guy who makes these novelity items in his machine shop. I think he's from PA but it's been a while since I saw the show and could be wrong about the location. They showed how he used precision tools to hollow out the back of one coin then (quite frankly I forget the specifics) he split the other in half to reduce it's thickness and he glues one inside the other. They said it not an illegal activty and he sells them for $9.99. It looks to be the same product.