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Your opinion of this $20 Liberty?

dan1ecudan1ecu Posts: 1,573
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1903 $20 MS64

I won this coin in a Heritage auction, and I was wondering how close it is to an MS65. It has relatively few marks on it, although the luster is somewhat subdued. There are also a couple of small copper spots on the reverse. Would you call this a high end 64 or a typical one?

Thanks,

Dan
Dan McInnes

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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I wouldnt give it an upgrade, but in this crazy world with changing values , who knows? Bear
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  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The coin is not high end but you bought it right.
  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    nice coin! but I don't think it has a chance of up-grading to 65.image mike
  • FC57CoinsFC57Coins Posts: 9,140 ✭
    ttt
  • JJacksJJacks Posts: 759 ✭

    I think the problem with the coin is that there appear to be a few (albeit small) marks right on the prime focal point - Ms. Liberty's cheek. I am not an expert in this series by a long shot, but that is certainly distracting enough that I assume that is why it got a 64. I am buying alot of 64/65 Peace $'s lately, and I find that I like coins where the cheek area is super clean. Even if there are marks elsewhere, the graders immediately check the prime focal points on coins, and may overlook marks elsewhere.

    JJacks

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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I bet if this coin was worth 7.5 million dollars ,
    it would get an upgrade just like the 1933 St Gaudens coin. Bear
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  • HuliganRSHuliganRS Posts: 345 ✭
    It's a nice 64 !

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  • jtrykajtryka Posts: 795 ✭
    It's a nice 64, but not upgrade material in my opinion.
  • HuntHunt Posts: 67 ✭
    The reverse is much cleaner, except what appears to be some copper spotting. On the other hand the obverse is 64 at best. I would say overall the coin is a fair 64 and has no shot at 65. But as the other guys have said you paid a good price so overall a good find.

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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Agreed that it is not a shot 65 and the next question will be can it and will it cross to PCGS as a 64? It has a decent chance.

    I would save these pics and if it crosses to PCGS as a 64 then you can tout that both grading services gave it a 64. Gives you more to crow about.
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  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unless you need it for a PCGS registry set, it really isn't worth the grading fees to try to cross this coin.
  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice luster, good strike and relatively clean fields but I agree with JJacks that there are too many marks on the cheek to get it into a 65 holder. That said it's still a very nice 64.
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