Jefferson Nickel Registry Pages are getting full!

GQ

There are little red flags daily on all of the Jefferson Registries. Both from the top and the bottom. These sets are growing and getting better daily. With the early Proofs Corso and BNE are letting no grass grow under their feet and we have a "Solid" third place. TJA is going to be a heavy hitter with Grant and Geonumis laying in wait. Has anyone checked out Ludlow's and BNE's "brilliant" sets?

It takes a 72% completion to get your set on the front page of the Late Proofs. J.R. Murphy and Rodius are making a game of it.

The circ. sets are the same; Corso and Walser are head to head being chased by a sea of "red flag". Again with a "Solid" third place being established. The new Chewbacca set with no FS's is fantastic.

Looks healthy to me.....watch out for those other "flaggers"

Enjoy your coins...........

NIckelCollector

GQ:

So is the competition good news or bad news? It will certainly continue to drive prices higher.

Ultimately, I believe more quality coins will come on the market. It's actually nice going to coin shows now and having dealers with Jeffersons prominently displayed.

My vote - good news!!!

Frank

RGL

Agreed, competition and interest is healthy, but ... is there supply? I went to a major show last weekend -- the Ohio State Coin Show in Columbus -- and there was nary a certified Jeff proof worth buying ... no interest or no supply?

BNE

David Hall mentioned on his site earlier this week that Jefferson supplies are remarkably thin, and that the good stuff gets snapped up quickly. That squares with what I've seen, and I am beginning to notice that prices for non-CAM PR68s from the 50's are beginning to creep up.

Another thing I notice is a lot of variability in price. It seems to me that certain coins (like a 74-S or 75-S in 69DCAM can be a bargain, or go for outrageous money, depending on whether there are two or more serious, competitive bidders who decide they want the same coin at the same time. If there's only one who knows about it, or the others are playing baseball that day, the same coin can go for cheap. This means that deals can be had by the patient.

I agree with Frank that this is generally a good thing. And I think we are still at the beginning of boom in this coin.

osirisMMII

Whew...... had me worried And ya...... you made me look And damn...... I'm slippin' down BTW GQ - where's your late date Jeffs? Competition is good for the sellers but those darn high-grade and early DCAMs are already elusive enough without higher prices! And nobody seems to want next highest grades.......... no one was bitin' on anything other than that '54 68CAM I was tryin' to unload a couple weeks ago

Hey BNE - you lookin' for top-grade brilliants from the 70's too or just the early stuff? Osiris

CarlWohlforth

I hadn't looked in a while. There are lots of new coins in these collections. I just noticed that the BNE collection has a '40 in 64 Cam. Neat! It sure would be something to have a %100 Cam/Dcam set all the way back to '38! Wasn't I in third before that upgrade? Anyway I would do the same thing.

Osiris mentioned prices are still low on many nice coins. 50s stuff in 67 Cam where 68 Cam is highest grade and only a handful of DCAM exist seem very cheap. If they start moving it will be a sign that proof Jeffs have really caught on!

To me I am collecting a full set of proof Jefferson nickels. I include all SMS coins as well. So I am off to delete my original two sets and enter all my coins in the '38-now set... That would leave space near the top for newer collections that focus on either the early or later ones.

GQ

The Wohlforth collection does take a strong second now with BNE's 1940 in Proof 64 Cameo. You need a 1/1000th inch feeler guage to keep those top sets in order. MTH isn't doing so bad either and Jim Claxton is keeping his top pole possition.

Osiris, I put my late date Proofs in the 1938 to date set. The complete set has been my goal from the beginning. To answer another previous thread regarding eliminating the bottom 20% completed sets, I started this set with one coin. It used to be NICKEL TRIUMPH, 3% for a while.

I do agree that the early Deep Cameos in Proof 68 are a good deal.....you never see Proof 69's until about 1975 or so, and these are very reasonable. It seems to be the high pop '80's that are drawing alot of attention and bidders. By the way....I have not seen a 1973 Proof DCAM in any grade for about three months or longer (unless I am missing them).

Any more Jefferson People or collectors out there with their opinions?

Enjoy your coins......see ya at half time.




NICKEL TRIUMPH.....SOON TO BE #6 ATF

BNE

Osiris: Funny you should mention it, but I have been collecting later brilliants (which I haven't posted). I have the 68-S, 69-S, 70-S and 73-S all in their respective top brilliant grades. I even picked up some sight-unseen top grade "brilliants" from the 80's but was disappointed when I received them because they were actually unattributed DCAMs in older holders. (Kinda ironic, huh?)

To maintain thematic consistency (and because it's just plain cool) I had to replace the PR67 with the PR64CAM, even though it meant a hit of a couple of "points." As we've discussed previously when the sets were weighted, PCGS erred in not giving more "bonus points" to the pre-'50 cameos and deep cameos -- and it's not just a theoretical issue anymore. (Frank was also right that older issues were too heavily weighted.) My goal for the DCAM/CAM set is to get as many attributed CAMs as I can for the early years, and failing that, to place coins with nice contrast in there, even if not the top grade. The "big set" receives the coins with the most points, regardless of cameo designation.

I sense increasing interest in this series. . . .

osirisMMII

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I imagine those are all PR69s? Curious what the pops are on those coins.

BNE

The 68-S and 69-S are PR69s, with pops of 4/0 and 3/0, respectively. The 70-S and 73-S are actually PR68s, with pops of 12/0 and 4/0, respectively. (For the later years, the dies had to get appreciably worn to lose their cameo.) Most of the later years are PR69s in their top grades, though.

osirisMMII

Did you notice my pop 4 '71 PR69? Got one of the '68 also - it's one of my wilder toned Jeffs, red, gold, yellow, olive, and blue - Jeffs hair starts with a blue top then turns brown, gold and red....... pretty cool lookin'!

BNE

Very cool! That's a tough date all across the board in that grade!