If you're looking to buy a 2002 Silver JFK in 69DCAM, wait for a while.
Russ
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It won't be long, and it'll be a $15 coin. This one is going to be a bumper crop, with the pop already nearing 650.
Russ, NCNE
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Clark
Nope, only PCGS. It's looking like a repeat of the 2000 Silvers; over 1500 of them in 69DCAM.
Russ, NCNE
I'm looking at the pop report right now, and I'm seeing 111 for 2002. 2001 is up to 653... is that what you're talking about?
Clark
HMM...I was looking in the set registry. It says 638 for the 2002 silver. Checking the pop report, it does show 111. I wonder which is correct? Even if the lower number, that's quite a few 69DCAM's for this early in the game.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Proof JFK's? Who would want any of those things anyway? >>
Only those of us who have an appreciation for truly beautiful coinage!
You might be right, but there are already dutch auctions showing up where they're not selling out at $25.
Clark,
Yep, the pops are huge for '99 and '00. Funny thing is, though, the '99 is bringing more then the '00, and it has a higher pop.
Russ, NCNE
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I agree, I have a few of 'em myself.
As far as the scarcity of the 2002, try going to the pop report page and in the upper right corner, where it says "lookup by pcgs number" type in the number 96917, which is the 2002 in silver, and you get more recent data than what it shows in the big table. I think the big table is updated by hand, and I've noticed that usually it lags behind the coin-by-coin data that you can get by doing a direct lookup.
What it shows is 638 coins in 69dcam in case someone wants to know and doesn't have access
Hope this helps!
I think that in the case of the Buffalo dollar, that value is driven more by the low mintage numbers then by the pop in high grade. Plus it's a big version of a very revered collector coin, so that adds some appeal.
Russ, NCNE
Thanks for the tip! That brings the number more in line with what Russ posted.
Clark
Thanks for the tip on that! I didn't know about it. That means the 638 that's listed in the set registry is correct. I guess the registry links directly to the database and updates automatically.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Robert,
Thanks for the tip on that! I didn't know about it. That means the 638 that's listed in the set registry is correct. I guess the registry links directly to the database and updates automatically.
Russ, NCNE >>
You'd think they could finish the job and make the main table do the same thing, wouldn't ya?
I wanna have my coin right now, do you hear me Russ right this very minute. Bear
Camelot
I think it's a combination of both. People are getting junk, so they're not submitting it. If they were, the numbers in the lower grades would be higher. I know it took me 11 sets to score two 69DCAMs.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Russ, I think the market will bear 500 pr69s without being detrimential to value.I also think submissions will level out as the economy slows down. >>
"AS THE ECONOMY SLOWS DOWN"
Oh god I hope not.
We're in full blown depression here in Michigan in Manufacturing. I hope it doesn't go down more.
Ray
Opinions?
Same boat here in Washington. Second highest unemployment in the country, and the Boeing machinist's union is threatening strike? Actually, I think the rank and file are smart enough to figure it out and probably voted against striking, which is why the union bosses called in the feds at the last second - after the vote was done, but before it was counted.
Russ, NCNE
Assuming they develop no problems while they're in waiting to be graded, they're both 69DCAMs.
Russ, NCNE
Uh what was this thread about? Sorry. Back off the soapbox for me!
Thanks for the validation. I know I can't even begin to grade coins at this stage, but I just can't see any problems with these.
Do you think they'll hold up well in the mint case, or is it in my best interest to crack 'em out and have them slabbed? Since the other coins in the sets are pretty nice, too (except for the sacs, which might not even make cam), I was thinking it might be better to leave them where they are.
Teach me, oh Wise One.
Clark
Greg
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I figured it out as soon as the execs moved. But, it's not Boeng that sucks, it's the state of Washington. Sixth worst in the nation for business taxes, and second only to California for red tape. This state is very anti-business and is run by the biggest concentration of bloodsuckers outside of Washington DC.
Russ, NCNE
I would open the sets and let the coins be exposed to the air for a week or two before submission. I've had too many of these grow crud after being pulled.
Russ, NCNE
Greg
<< <i>I figured it out as soon as the execs moved. But, it's not Boeng that sucks, it's the state of Washington. Sixth worst in the nation for business taxes, and second only to California for red tape. This state is very anti-business and is run by the biggest concentration of bloodsuckers outside of Washington DC. >>
Yeah no doubt. But as for your term "bloodsuckers" I think they do prefer to be called "democrats".
One thing that shocked me when I moved to CT was that their taxes are relatively low, yet they USE them...EFFECTIVELY.
Tennessee has got to be way up there. Our sales tax is 9.75 percent on most items now.Talk about internet sales boom! Buy a $2000.00 item off the internet and save $195.00 over your local dealer!.
ps.....Im the local dealer.
Also we dont have medicaid, we have Tenncare for indigent health insurance. One third of our population is on Tennncare. It is a pilot program that covers anyone that has been turned down by any other health insurance co. We have the highest cost insurance per person in the U.S.A. and it covers doctors lawyers and welfare recipients equally well. It has a current cost to the state of $6000.00 per person. Family of 5 costs the state $30,000.00 per year. Our legislature just passed the largest tax increase in state history and we will be broke again by august of next year. The newest battle cry is raise business taxes!
If the aforementioned bloodsuckers have their way, gas will soon be just as high as CT. They're working hard to pile on a boatload more tax per gallon. Fortunately, we had an initiative that recently passed that is making them sweat in their efforts to bleed us further.
Russ, NCNE
Didn't Albert Gore Jr. hatch in your state? Of course, it speaks well of your population that he lost the state in his bid for Pres.
Russ, NCNE
You wouldn't happen to be in Memphis, would you?
Clark
I am in Chattanooga, thats about 400 miles from Memphis. Its only 120 miles to Atlanta. And I really live in Ringgold Georgia. 10 miles south of Chattanooga. My business property is in Chattanooga. So i buy
georgia gasoline at 1.16 verses 1.35 in Tennessee. Also no sales tax on groceries in ga, 8.25 on groceries in tn.
ga has lottery, Tn doesnt.
border towns are complex places to live.
(regardless of party affiliation) for at least 10 years. Then we select replacements like we select citizens
for jury duty. All lobbyists to be sent to Guantanimo to spend time in the holding center. If I have
left any deserving people out, just shoot em. Bear
Camelot
I went to Memphis 7 or 8 times in the past year, work-related. Luckily, I didn't buy alot of groceries... spent all my per-diem on steaks, BBQ & booze.
Good thing Republicans like Giuliani and Pataki support gun control.
The old days were more fun, you could ride them out of town on a rail, or
you could just hang em . Bear
Camelot
my bed and hide. Bear
Camelot
Low mintage? You mean 500,000 is low mintage? I don't think so. Low mintage is 8000 for an old commemorative. The demand for that coin has gone down a lot. It's just that a lot of people don't want to sell it for its current inflated price. They want $250 which is what they could have got when it first came out.
<< <i>Low mintage? You mean 500,000 is low mintage? I don't think so. >>
In the context of this thread, which is discussing and comparing the pop of a modern Kennedy Half with that of the Buffalo dollar, not a classic commemorative, yes it is.
Russ, NCNE