A drum roll, please: 67,802 PCGS-graded '36-42 Proofs. Here are pix of the unique (pop 1/0) DCAM!
RGL
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BNE is too humble to talk of his coin, but his reluctance does not extend to me. I persuaded him to share some pictures of a unique coin (yes, one of a kind) and then cajoled him to let me share the photos with board members. There are but 32 CAMs among the 67,802 PCGS-graded coins of the 1936-42 Proof era. And, never a DCAM -- until now.
Ladies and gentlemen, as I reported previously, but now for the first time with pictures, the lone DCAM among all denominations (satin and brilliant) of 1936-1942 Proof coinage. To call this coin desirable is an absurdity; to proclaim it a rarity is an understatement:
The BNE PCGS PR-66 DCAM 1942-P Jefferson Type 2 Five Cents:
I believe we should all be pleased this coin is in the collection of a true numismatist and proof Jeff collector rather than in the purse of a speculator or investor. Thank you, BNE, for sharing it with us ...
By way of background, I did a little research. PCGS has graded a grand total of 67,802 1936-42 Proofs (both brilliant and satin, where applicable), and this coin stands alone as a deep cameo among:
* 8,894 Lincoln cents (18 CAMs)
* 3,041 Indian Head five cents (4 CAMs)
* 10,287 Jefferson five cents (5 CAMs)
* 17,149 Winged Liberty dimes (0 CAMs)
* 10,990 Washington quarters (0 CAMs)
* 17,441 Walking Liberty half dollars (5 CAMs)
A truly notable accomplishment, BNE. We thrill to your coin.
Ladies and gentlemen, as I reported previously, but now for the first time with pictures, the lone DCAM among all denominations (satin and brilliant) of 1936-1942 Proof coinage. To call this coin desirable is an absurdity; to proclaim it a rarity is an understatement:
The BNE PCGS PR-66 DCAM 1942-P Jefferson Type 2 Five Cents:
I believe we should all be pleased this coin is in the collection of a true numismatist and proof Jeff collector rather than in the purse of a speculator or investor. Thank you, BNE, for sharing it with us ...
By way of background, I did a little research. PCGS has graded a grand total of 67,802 1936-42 Proofs (both brilliant and satin, where applicable), and this coin stands alone as a deep cameo among:
* 8,894 Lincoln cents (18 CAMs)
* 3,041 Indian Head five cents (4 CAMs)
* 10,287 Jefferson five cents (5 CAMs)
* 17,149 Winged Liberty dimes (0 CAMs)
* 10,990 Washington quarters (0 CAMs)
* 17,441 Walking Liberty half dollars (5 CAMs)
A truly notable accomplishment, BNE. We thrill to your coin.
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Tony
President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay
PCGS PR67CAM Buffalo
BNE - Thanks for your generosity in sharing this with all of us.
RGL - Nice coaxing
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I'm impressed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stewart
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HAHAHAHAHAH!!!
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I was so happy to get this coin! It has very special look to it -- different than other Jeffs, maybe because of the silver. The frost, while not "caked on," is "there," even on the lettering. I think a very slight haze in the fields partially accounts for the PR66 grade -- it is not markedly blemished or dinged.
This was one of my dream coins to own, and I'm glad it's landed here.
Blade: I saw that Buffalo, too. And it is absolutely crazy! Who would have thought that a cameo Buffalo existed? Another incredible coin!
Thanks for your comments, everyone. Randy didn't really have to do all that much cajoling, but I am grateful for his help posting the image, which I can't seem to be able to do presently.
I'm having a ton of fun on the boards!
William S. Burroughs, Cities of the Red Night
PS-I am the proud owner of one of the 0 cam Mercury dimes.
Still a lovely coin to behold. I do not agree with the grade though.
BNE-
Can I have it when you're done looking at it?
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Outstanding addition to your set.
RGL:
Thanks for sharing.
My Jefferson Full Step Variety Set (1938 - Current)
My Jefferson Proof Variety Set (1938 - Current)
Pat: You are likely correct (until it is explained to you why your submission coin didn't make DCAM because of the same frost breaks when it comes back CAM - ever happen to you!!) and if Morris has seen the coin and gives it the "thumbs up", the coin must be super in person.
And, I can live with "slight allowances" on neat coins like this one. It becomes interesting though on just where you draw the line. Like in the Lincoln proof series for example, I believe PCGS does not consider the reverse of a Wheat cent whatsoever in deciding if the coin qualifies for DCAM. Again, a line was drawn there as well.
Wondercoin
Are the obverse contrast breaks evident when viewing the coin or are they a result of the image? I have some DCAM coins that don't produce good images. Using a scanner though.
Almost forgot, Great Coin!
I find Nickel to be very hard to find in DCAM. Well at least the ones before '73 or so. I've had a tough time finding the line between Cam and DCAM for these coins as well.
jtryka - I was looking for a cameo Merc. I didn't bid on a PR 64 Cam. A 67 Cam went for what was above my budget. There must be a handful. Oh, well! Mirrors are hard to find on PR Mercs even without frost. I found one with OK mirrors but still am not happy with it. I should start searching for a cam Merc again.
Joking aside, this is a valuable, magnificent coin.
Wondercoin:
Seems like there are many examples of PCGS overlooking frost break in designating DCAM, even though their grading guidebook says they shouldn't. Best examples that I know are the 1956 Franklins, and 53 and 54 Lincolns. For those years the very best dies that made DCAMs have the characteristic breaks. Question is, for magnificent contrast coins should a break be overlooked. I think so. Certainly prefer one to a piece with lesser contrast and no breaks. In fact for the Lincolns cited, affectionados look for the characteristic breaks and pay premiums for those pieces. I do think the guidelines should be modified to conform with the practice.
Greg
<< <i>Wow, what a super coin! Thanks so much for posting the scan. I have hoped to see a scan ever since we learned BNE had it. That is a keeper for sure.
I find Nickel to be very hard to find in DCAM. Well at least the ones before '73 or so. I've had a tough time finding the line between Cam and DCAM for these coins as well.
jtryka - I was looking for a cameo Merc. I didn't bid on a PR 64 Cam. A 67 Cam went for what was above my budget. There must be a handful. Oh, well! Mirrors are hard to find on PR Mercs even without frost. I found one with OK mirrors but still am not happy with it. I should start searching for a cam Merc again. >>
How much did this said pr64 cam dime fetch? Check on ebay, I see brillant proof dimes all the time.
I do agree with those who have observed that the written PCGS guidelines may have been loosened a bit for this coin. If it were a 1963, one could safely say if would only be a CAM. But it is a matter of line-drawing, as many have observed, and I am not going to second-guess PCGS for its decision here. One could extrapolate from the limited data so far that pre-'50 CAMs do not have to be "as" CAM or DCAM as their later brethren to get the designation.
That being said, it is a truly impressive coin in person, and I am really glad to share the pics with you all!
William S. Burroughs, Cities of the Red Night
Congratulations on a beautiful coin!
Cents 51 67 DCAM
53 66 DCAM
58 68 DCAM
Nickels 42-P 66 DCAM
56 67 DCAM
Dimes 52 68 DCAM
55 66 DCAM
55 67 DCAM
58 67 DCAM
59 68 DCAM
Quarters 54 67 DCAM
Halves 50 65 CAM Three of them
51 66 DCAM
53 65 DCAM
53 66 DCAM
55 67 DCAM
57 67 DCAM
58 67 DCAM
I would consider any one of these coins to be a "home run", much less the entire lot. Wonder who submitted this????.... Capper, Tomaska, Webb Your Guess, and how far back???
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