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A drum roll, please: 67,802 PCGS-graded '36-42 Proofs. Here are pix of the unique (pop 1/0) DCAM!

BNE is too humble to talk of his coin, but his reluctance does not extend to me. I persuaded him to share some pictures of a unique coin (yes, one of a kind) and then cajoled him to let me share the photos with board members. There are but 32 CAMs among the 67,802 PCGS-graded coins of the 1936-42 Proof era. And, never a DCAM -- until now.

Ladies and gentlemen, as I reported previously, but now for the first time with pictures, the lone DCAM among all denominations (satin and brilliant) of 1936-1942 Proof coinage. To call this coin desirable is an absurdity; to proclaim it a rarity is an understatement:

The BNE PCGS PR-66 DCAM 1942-P Jefferson Type 2 Five Cents:

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I believe we should all be pleased this coin is in the collection of a true numismatist and proof Jeff collector rather than in the purse of a speculator or investor. Thank you, BNE, for sharing it with us ...

By way of background, I did a little research. PCGS has graded a grand total of 67,802 1936-42 Proofs (both brilliant and satin, where applicable), and this coin stands alone as a deep cameo among:

* 8,894 Lincoln cents (18 CAMs)
* 3,041 Indian Head five cents (4 CAMs)
* 10,287 Jefferson five cents (5 CAMs)
* 17,149 Winged Liberty dimes (0 CAMs)
* 10,990 Washington quarters (0 CAMs)
* 17,441 Walking Liberty half dollars (5 CAMs)

A truly notable accomplishment, BNE. We thrill to your coin.

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  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm Drooling all over my keyboard! image

    Tony

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  • BladeBlade Posts: 1,744
    An absolute stunner. I don't visit R&I coins often, but came across this 1937 Buffalo in PR67 CAM. Another coin that is just plain smokin'.

    PCGS PR67CAM Buffalo

    BNE - Thanks for your generosity in sharing this with all of us.

    RGL - Nice coaxing image
    Tom

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  • A superb coin! Thanks for sharing!!!
  • That's a Bing Bling Coin!
  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭

    I'm impressed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Stewart
  • I have little doubt that this coin will become the most valuable Jefferson nickel! Absulutely stunning!



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  • <<That's a Bling Bling Coin!>>

    HAHAHAHAHAH!!!

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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,972 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin, but the obverse contrast breaks keep the coin technically from the DCAM grade IMHO. Wonderful CAMEO though. Wondercoin.
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  • BNEBNE Posts: 772
    Randy, Thank you so much for posting the pictures. And the build-up! Jeez, too much!

    I was so happy to get this coin! It has very special look to it -- different than other Jeffs, maybe because of the silver. The frost, while not "caked on," is "there," even on the lettering. I think a very slight haze in the fields partially accounts for the PR66 grade -- it is not markedly blemished or dinged.
    This was one of my dream coins to own, and I'm glad it's landed here.

    Blade: I saw that Buffalo, too. And it is absolutely crazy! Who would have thought that a cameo Buffalo existed? Another incredible coin!

    Thanks for your comments, everyone. Randy didn't really have to do all that much cajoling, but I am grateful for his help posting the image, which I can't seem to be able to do presently.

    I'm having a ton of fun on the boards!
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  • crack it out and try for a 67 - only kidding, congrats!
  • WOW! What a beautiful coin! Thanks for convincing BNE to let you share it with us. image

    PS-I am the proud owner of one of the 0 cam Mercury dimes.
  • Overgarded, its a cam, look at the shoulder image Just kidding, its beautiful.
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,002 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe PCGS probably wanted to grade this PR67CAM or PR68CAM but gave it DCAM since it was nearly a DCAM and then downgraded it to a 66DCAM. My hunch on this grade. Sort of a strange "net grade."

    Still a lovely coin to behold. I do not agree with the grade though.
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  • Damn!!!! I'm jealous! image Apparently wondercoin is too......... image Cuz he didn't find it first *hehe* Thanks for sharing an stunner BNE! See I knew there was a good reason not to give you a heads up on a '64 PR70 image Just kiddin'............ well maybe not.........image
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  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570


    BNE-

    Can I have it when you're done looking at it?


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  • BNE:

    Outstanding addition to your set.

    RGL:

    Thanks for sharing.

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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,972 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Doesn't PCGS make a slight allowance for a frost break when the coin is this outragious"

    Pat: You are likely correct (until it is explained to you why your submission coin didn't make DCAM because of the same frost breaks when it comes back CAM - ever happen to you!!) and if Morris has seen the coin and gives it the "thumbs up", the coin must be super in person.

    And, I can live with "slight allowances" on neat coins like this one. It becomes interesting though on just where you draw the line. Like in the Lincoln proof series for example, I believe PCGS does not consider the reverse of a Wheat cent whatsoever in deciding if the coin qualifies for DCAM. Again, a line was drawn there as well.

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  • DAMDAM Posts: 2,410 ✭✭
    BNE,

    Are the obverse contrast breaks evident when viewing the coin or are they a result of the image? I have some DCAM coins that don't produce good images. Using a scanner though.

    Almost forgot, Great Coin!

    Dan
  • Wow, what a super coin! Thanks so much for posting the scan. I have hoped to see a scan ever since we learned BNE had it. That is a keeper for sure.

    I find Nickel to be very hard to find in DCAM. Well at least the ones before '73 or so. I've had a tough time finding the line between Cam and DCAM for these coins as well.

    jtryka - I was looking for a cameo Merc. I didn't bid on a PR 64 Cam. A 67 Cam went for what was above my budget. There must be a handful. Oh, well! Mirrors are hard to find on PR Mercs even without frost. I found one with OK mirrors but still am not happy with it. I should start searching for a cam Merc again.
  • TypetoneTypetone Posts: 1,621 ✭✭
    Wow! This coin is destined for greatness. Certainly the greatest 36-42 proof yet known, and possible destined to become the finest 20th century coin ever. One of a kind and probably always will be. The 33 Saint at 7.6 million, bosh, this coin smacks it hands down.

    Joking aside, this is a valuable, magnificent coin.

    Wondercoin:

    Seems like there are many examples of PCGS overlooking frost break in designating DCAM, even though their grading guidebook says they shouldn't. Best examples that I know are the 1956 Franklins, and 53 and 54 Lincolns. For those years the very best dies that made DCAMs have the characteristic breaks. Question is, for magnificent contrast coins should a break be overlooked. I think so. Certainly prefer one to a piece with lesser contrast and no breaks. In fact for the Lincolns cited, affectionados look for the characteristic breaks and pay premiums for those pieces. I do think the guidelines should be modified to conform with the practice.

    Greg
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful coin, but I have to ask: Since PCGS has only been giving the Cam and DCam designation for a year or so now, you really can't say that this is the only one from 67,802 graded proofs. There may be dozens, or even hundreds, already graded and locked away that haven't been resubmitted for cameo designation. True?
  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,008 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Are there any breaks in the frost? Or is that just some toning on the portrait and the Monticello? I guess my real question is whether PCGS softens it's DCAM requirements for pre-50 proofs.
    Doug
  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,732 ✭✭✭✭✭
    An awsome coin. How did you get the images? I would love to get a clear shot of my DCAM, but my scanner (which sucks) makes it look like a piece of ****. The images of this coin turned out great.
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  • << <i>Wow, what a super coin! Thanks so much for posting the scan. I have hoped to see a scan ever since we learned BNE had it. That is a keeper for sure.

    I find Nickel to be very hard to find in DCAM. Well at least the ones before '73 or so. I've had a tough time finding the line between Cam and DCAM for these coins as well.

    jtryka - I was looking for a cameo Merc. I didn't bid on a PR 64 Cam. A 67 Cam went for what was above my budget. There must be a handful. Oh, well! Mirrors are hard to find on PR Mercs even without frost. I found one with OK mirrors but still am not happy with it. I should start searching for a cam Merc again. >>



    How much did this said pr64 cam dime fetch? Check on ebay, I see brillant proof dimes all the time.
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  • BNEBNE Posts: 772
    In answer to some questions, I do not see any noticeable frost breaks on the upper part of the portrait. The shoulder and very bottom of the portrait have some die polish and do exhibit a little frost fade, compared to the rest of the coin. The neck and cheekbone area are frosted, however, and the picture (which I did not take, so I don't know how it was done) doesn't capture this completely, probably because of the angles involved. Same with the ends of Monticello: they are frosted, but the planes of those parts are on an angle, so it photographs a little differently.

    I do agree with those who have observed that the written PCGS guidelines may have been loosened a bit for this coin. If it were a 1963, one could safely say if would only be a CAM. But it is a matter of line-drawing, as many have observed, and I am not going to second-guess PCGS for its decision here. One could extrapolate from the limited data so far that pre-'50 CAMs do not have to be "as" CAM or DCAM as their later brethren to get the designation.

    That being said, it is a truly impressive coin in person, and I am really glad to share the pics with you all!
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  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,008 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks like a fantastic coin regardless of where the line is drawn, and that is the most imporant thing. I was just asking because I have one early proof that is heavy on frost and contrast, yet I certainly wouldn't give it a DCAM using the same standard as I would a 1963 coin. Hence, my question.

    Congratulations on a beautiful coin!
    Doug
  • You are cheating on the BNE "brilliant" set..........Super coin..........gotta love them early Proof Jeffersons
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  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,136 ✭✭✭✭
    Awesome Coin!!! I went and did a little digging on this piece, and would submit to the forum that this coin was part of the single best submission in PCGS history. The following are the coins submitted with the 42-P and their grades. They are unbelievable:

    Cents 51 67 DCAM
    53 66 DCAM
    58 68 DCAM

    Nickels 42-P 66 DCAM
    56 67 DCAM

    Dimes 52 68 DCAM
    55 66 DCAM
    55 67 DCAM
    58 67 DCAM
    59 68 DCAM

    Quarters 54 67 DCAM

    Halves 50 65 CAM Three of them
    51 66 DCAM
    53 65 DCAM
    53 66 DCAM
    55 67 DCAM
    57 67 DCAM
    58 67 DCAM

    I would consider any one of these coins to be a "home run", much less the entire lot. Wonder who submitted this????.... Capper, Tomaska, Webb Your Guess, and how far back???

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  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That coin is great and one of the best jefferson's I have ever seenimage
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