zero Feedback...would you cancel these bids?

its4real

Got a few of these "brand spanking new" e-bay accounts bidding on auctions.

link

This guy forgot to put the parenthesis around the number on his ID so it would look like he had some feedback

link

Think I should cancel these bids? If not - why?

goose3

I wouldn't cancel them at this point.

both bidders are new. Neither have any retractions or anything.

why would you cancel them at this point?


I have canceled bids before on people but only when I see that they have recent negatives for non payment and a low feedback number.

give it a couple days and see what happens.

its4real

both accounts were just opened last week -

but I'm with you -

jtryka

Personally, I don't cancel bids for low feedback (or zero feedback) alone. If the person had a zero due to 3 pos and 3 negs, then I would cancel. I just don't believe in penalizing people just because they are new. Also, if it was a high dollar item, I might e-mail the bidder and verify their ability to pay, but otherwise I would just let it go.

Bear

Its4Real - While I have been buying and selling coins for 30 years, being computor challanged,
I have never been on E-bay. As such I would have zero feedbacks even though many people
would recognize my furry little body, if I walked down the street holding my 2 balloons. Bear

dddangerousdan

NO! everyone has to start somewhere. You will have the coin untill you recieve payment, so you have nothing to lose. What if this person, schoch@family-net.net, did not want to buy from someone with a "zero" feedback. If so you would not have had your first sale

DAN

Placid

Sellers are at less risk in dealing with zero feedback people than buyers since no one gives you the item until you pay for it.

Besides only a newbie would bid on your stuff

airplanenut

I have some low-feedback bidders on some items now... doesn't bother me if I get my money... I signed up for eBay just to bid on a specific item... would I have been pissed if the guy denied my bid because I was new (shameless plug... see auctions below )

Besides, most likely, since he is new and not negged with some positives to balance himself out, you will get more by keeping his bid

braddick

Don't cancel. Yours appears to be "beginners auctions", in a sense and would attract the new collector/eBay'er.

Although it is certainly not that tough, it isn't as easy as it used to be to set up an eBay account. It's unlikely these were set up to torment you.

*edited: spelling error. (Thanks bear-)

Bear

Hey, No one can torment like us Forum Member...... Right? Bear

TomB

I know what you are infering but I think you should leave them alone at this point. I say this because your auctions have plenty of time left to them for others to outbid them, the coins they are bidding on are not exactly enormous in price and, perhaps most importantly, the bidders are bidding on other items by other sellers. The first link you have shows a bidder who is bidding on about 15 Morgans from various sellers while the second link has a bidder who is bidding on two coins by different seller. Lastly, I don't think this Board is nearly as vindictive as you seem to believe it is. Good luck with the auctions.

tjkillian

No, I wouldn't. Since they are for low value coins (less than $200.00) and you will get your money before you even send the coins, there is little risk to you. Everyone has to start somewhere.

Tom

its4real

Okay - I gotta know....

What is meant by "newbie" auctions and how can you tell?

Placid ?

TomB - how did you find out all of the sutff they were bidding on? Where is the link?
Gee willicurs! I just MIGHT learn somethin' here

braddick

Other's will answer probably better- but your auctions attract new accounts on a couple of fronts.
First, you are selling raw circulated and uncirculated Morgans.

These big, heavy, attractive coins are somewhat inexpensive and the new collector may be drawn to them. There are some great deals to be had buying raw Morgans on eBay, but it is also a minefield. It can be an area that some advanced Collectors choose not to go because of the general common nature of the series (in those grades).

mrpaseo

I had the same thing happen today, I decided to let it ride. However, this "O" bidder has been outbid so no worries.

Ray

cacheman

What Placid meant was that your self-proclaimed "special coins" are of the quality that only newbies would buy. Raw, common, low grade. And it appears that no one here on the boards are much interested in them either by the looks of the auction.

So its4real, are you just going to act like nothing happened over the weekend regarding your behavior and posts? I would think that if you intend on hanging around you would owe all the forum's a heart-felt apology AND an explanation. I, for one, am not convinced that you are here without a hidden agenda.

HuliganRS

Don't.

griffin6

Less risk as a seller than as a buyer when dealing with new people. Hey, they've got to start somewhere!

relayer

I've seen 0 feed back users count up fast during the auction. Sometimes newbies go on buying spree's because everything is "such a deal".

I ran a dutch auction once for 2000 eagles from a tube and had a nice spread of single coin bids (I charged $3 S/H 1st and $1 each $8.50 max). Then a 0 feedback guy showed up and bid $8.75 for all 20 and I was bummed. But he turned into a repeat customer and came back for some high ticket items.

Gilbert

I haven't read all the responses to your thread, but I will tell you that I have a grand total of 1 feedback as a buyer on ebay, but I doubt you will find anyone who will more honor a transaction than I would.

Most of my auction bidding is done in other venues. Let me put it this way. I can bid in any CU auction (B&M, Kingswood, Lyn Knight, etc) without question. I just don't favor eBay, although, ocassionally I may see something of interest, and may bid on it.

Should a seller block or refuse my bid because I have so little feedback, I just chalk it up as their loss, and I have more money to deal with someone who actually wants to participate in a true auction.

Even you had to start somewhere. Again, I'll reiterate, I doubt you will find anyone who will pay you any faster than I, even with my limited feedback, so - there is a perspective from one who has never reneged on a bid, albeit 99% are with "AuctionHouses". One other thing, sellers are also taking a chance conducting business on eBay (who will not even declare themselves an auction house).

Even if a 0 feedback person should submit the winning bid and not come through, don't you still have the option to contact the next higher bidder and make or try and make the sale? Look, your using a venue that won't accept any liability; you have to arrange to transactions to minimize any potential loss, but, you too have as much potential to defraud a buyer as they have to defraud you. If this be your business than accept some of the risk. It is unfair to expect the buyer to accept all the risk.

howie08

I wouldn't cancel their bids ; everyone starts out with 0 feedbacks , and you get to keep the coin until you receive payment. When you're their first " deal " they tend to come back for more , or e-mail you for other items they're looking for. Let it ride
Howie