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Any body bag interpreters out there? Wheel?

Along with a large submission recently, I included a BU 44-S Washington quarter that struck me as a very nice coin. However, it was bagged as "damaged or tooled." Well, it certainly is not damaged nor can I detect any tooling. Besides, who would tool a fairly common date such as this? But, one of the graders made a note on the flip about a "wheel reverse." I have never heard this phrase. Does anyone know what a wheel or wheeled reverse is? Thanks.

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  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    I think it means the reverse was polished with a wheel.
    Only thing I can think of.
  • Sometimes coin sorters with place a 'wheel' mark on the coin. The coin sorters have either rubber or metal wheels which grab the coin while sorting and make a very distinctive mark. I gather that's what they meant.

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  • RGL the same thing happened to me on a franklin half I submitted.Look closely at the reverse and you should find a couple of small grooves.Here is what mine looked like.

    WHEEL MARKS.
  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,777 ✭✭✭
    Smprfi,
    What have you got... a tunnelling electron microscope? That feature looks pretty small in person I bet!
    Give Blood (Red Bags) & Platelets (Yellow Bags)!
  • Brian it is a qx3 intel microscope.I didn't see them when I submitted it.I could only see them with my 10x loupe.
  • "Tooled" usually means deliberately worked on with a rotary brush or something like that, while "wheel" refers to roller marks from a counting machine. Often shows up as a series of very fine parallel lines which are indeed tough to see sometimes. Also to be confused with the term "wipe" in which a jewelers cloth or something was used, again resulting in a series of hairlines. EIther way, all can be considered damage although there are plenty of certified pieces out there with plenty of wipes and roller marks on them. image
  • RGLRGL Posts: 3,784
    Well, I just looked at the quarter again -- thanks to your descriptions above -- and did notice a slight mark through the TES of STATES, but it certainly is not severe and a lot less distracting than many bag marks I have seen on slabbed coins. Geeesh ....
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    To my knowledge, a wheel mark doesn't mean an automatic bodybag. In the grading class I took in July, the instructors mentioned that a wheel mark on a Merc means it can't grade higher than a 64. But the example coin they had didn't have actual damage like smprfi's photo showed, just an area where the surface was scuffed with parallel lines about 1/8" wide.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

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