Opinions on the grade of this 84CC Morgan

FC57Coins

For my own edification, I'd appreciate your opinions on the grade of the Morgan Dollar I've pictured below.

Thanks

Frank

darktone

With all the marks on liberty's face I would think in the 62 range a 63 at tops. mike

GAT

My guess (not an expert) is the obverse MS60 and the reverse MS64. However, with all the chatter and cuts on liberty's face PCGS would probable grade it AU.

andy007

The coin would not be graded AU because of hits and/or scrapes if the coin is uncirculated. PCGS might not grade it if the scrape is too severe, but it looks like some big bag marks to me. I would say it's a MS62 and PCGS would grade it IMO, but that's why I'm here and not working for them.

FC57Coins

I figured MS63 tops because it's a CC dollar, but MS62 certainly sounds reasonable - bytheway, it's a GSA dollar.

Frank

cacheman

MS60, just too mangled for anything better.

Placid

AU-58 area above the eye looks like it has a rub and the rim at 9 o'clock looks very uneven.

dragon

Placid, That is not circulation rub you're seeing, just abrasions and bagmarks, and it's an MS coin. That looks like a typical 84-CC GSA coin and is about a MS61 going by your pic.

Dragon

FC57Coins

Thanks Dragon:

I've been hearing that perhaps grading services were a little more linient on CC dollars, but alas the coin is what it is. I appreciate your input!

Frank

Dog97

No leeway is given to common dates & grades. Even though it is well struck & lusterous the chopped up face makes it a 62.

HuliganRS

MS60 - MS 62 depends if grader got some the night before

1907Quarter

MS61-and this was my choice before seeing the others. Too much luster for 60, and not enough bag marks! Not 62 IMHO because there are too many!

joemon2

Looks MS 62 to me. The digs on the obverse appear too deep to grade any higher. Still, a nice coin with very good luster. And a CC dollar to boot!

Placid

Is there a way to tell a gsa dollar from any other besides a box?
Seems to me unless you bought one from the govt. yourself you have no way to know since people sell the empty gsa boxes.

GAT

I still believe PCGS net grades coins without saying so and would knock this one down or body bag it.

FC57Coins

It's a GSA dollar in a sealed GSA plastic container - I guess I haven't gone over the seams with a fine tooth comb, but I believe it's the genuine item LOL.

Frank

dragon

Placid,

The GSA dollars came sonically sealed in a large hard plastic case (some also came in sealed cello) and the plastic cases were then put into special black cardboard boxes with a blue lining. As long as a coin is still in the sealed hard plastic case, it's considered a GSA coin, with or without the outer box.

Dragon

Placid

I never owned one so I was just asking.
I have seen empty boxes for sale on eBay and wondered.
I didn't know they were in a sealed slab.
Thanks.
Glad someone got a laugh out of it

GAT

It has already been proven that some GSA slabs have be opened, coins replaced with sliders and resold.

IrishMike

Looks 62

Gilbert

I too would call it a MS62. Has a average to decent strike with good luster, but considerably baggy; however, there's room for more hits so I wouldn't go as low as 60, and due to the positive attributes I mentioned above I would upgrade from a 61. If it were also weaker in strike and not as lustrous then I would say 61.

Larger coinsm with larger surfaces are expected to display some hits, so 60 would be overly critical and 61 would be ignoring the other features IMO.

its4real

Hi,

You can take a better photo/scan using diffuse sunlight - it works great. Based on the picture you have shown, you will have a much harder time getting a decent grading on this board. I know, from experience, how difficult it is to make the pic look like the coin.

The pic looks like an AU-50 or MS-60. I'll bet the ccin itself it more of the MS-64 variety.

oreville

First glance...... is a low end 62/high end 61 obverse but that very nice reverse brings it up to a more solid 62.

Dynamite reverse!

itsnotjustme

In my book that great reverse saves it from a 61 and makes it a 62.

I had three GSA dollars... 82-CC, 83-CC, 84-CC. The 83 looked like that on the obverse, without quite as nice a reverse. I sold it to my local dealer for about $10 shy of what I paid off e-bay (low qual scan).

The 82-CC and 84-CC both also came from e-bay with poor quality scans. They are both nice... posted in this thread here