2001-W 1/10oz PCGS MS69DCAM Hmmmmm!!!!

coinkooky

I posted yesterday about a coin I was bidding on. The thread was lost somehow due to my membership being updated.

Anyhow a gentalman replied to my delema about the infamous 2001-W 1/10 oz PCGS MS69DCAM. I wanted to thank you. I believe you were correct in the possibility of PCGS making the error. However, I still do not know for sure. I asked the seller three times now for the PCGS register #'s and three times got a lot of fluff. The picture is real blury on the auction page and claims he can't provide a better picture either. Hmmmm.........

I am not sure how to install a hyperlink, but I'm sure you can paste this one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1376046513&rd=1

Placid

The label on the holder in the picture is marked PR.
At least that's what I see.

coinkooky

I thought it looked like PR as well. I called the seller on it and he swears it is an MS69!

Placid

Why won't he tell you the cert numbers on it?
Maybe someone with a pop report can look and see if there are any MS dcams listed.

MartyF

Here's that coin blown up to 800 x 600....it looks like PR69DCAM.....
Pic

coinkooky

I put the picture into a photo program and zoomed in and sure enough it is an MS

I cant make out the cert. # and I don't know why he wont give them to me.

richbeat

I posted a reply to your original thread. I honestly can't tell from MartyF's link what's on the label. It's definitely a proof. If it says "MS" it's a label error.

MrLee

LINKED

mrpaseo

OK, so what does the nuymbers look like to you, let's see if we can figure this out.

I'm thinking something like this:

704334_ _

There might be a 1 between the 4 and the 33

What can you get? Try to match/bounce your numbers off mine and see if we can get it.

Ray

MadMarty

I don't know, I look at the grade an see PR69DCAM.

presleyh

There is no such thing as a dcam ms is there? on this screen it clearly says pr69dcam

dpoole

Also, doesn't the "W" designation make it a proof??

presleyh

the pop report shows the w to be a proof coin. there are 351 graded pr69 dcam for 2001w $5.00 the ms shows no cameo grading.

richbeat

On the second scan I see "PR" also. The proofs carry the P mint mark from 1988 to 1993, and the W mint mark from 1994 to present, although in 1999 there are uncirculated examples with a W, struck accidentally from unpolished proof dies. They're listed in the red book at $450.00.

richbeat

I say accidentally, but who knows, with the weird stuff that's been coming from the mint lately. It may have been deliberate.

coinkooky

Thanks for everbodys input. Either my three emails asking for the cert#'s or someone tipped him off. He pulled the auction. I have emailed a couple of times to find out what happened and did not get a response.

I was hoping he was an honest person and that there was a chance that I was on to something unique. I read all of his emails again and he pretty much implicates himself as a fraud. He has a lot on ebay with buy it nows. No one is bidding on anything he has up now.

Just another scammer!

Thanks everybody!