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I just don't understand.

MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
Just got an invoice posted. What a waste of grading dollars. The pickier I get the worse the grades are. But one thing I dont understand, I opened up a 1979 Type 2 proof set and sent them in. This is what they graded...
5 40013794 1979-S 1C Type 2 PR65CA
6 40013795 1979-S 5C Type 2 PR66DC
7 40013796 1979-S 10C Type 2 PR66DC
8 40013797 1979-S 25C Type 2 Not Genuine
9 40013798 1979-S 50C Type 2 PR66DC
10 40013799 1979-S SBA$ Type 2 PR66DC
What I can't figure out is how a counterfit quarter got into a proof set? The proof grades blew chunks, the MS grades weren't bad. If you want to look at a piss poor invoice it's 3046322. It was a sorry day for MY grading skills.image
It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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  • baccarudabaccaruda Posts: 2,588 ✭✭
    not genuine? didn't they think by the submission that someone cracked up a set and sent it in?

    are you forging quarters in your basement again? maybe you sent in one of those clinton quarters by mistake...
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    That's what throws me for a loop. I sent the whole proof set in. Case an all...
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • GaCoinGuyGaCoinGuy Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭✭
    maybe they scarred it all to heck when opening the case and replaced it with a washer of the same size? Thats truly odd.......Don't bagged coins have to get looked at by someone else before they get sent back?
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  • jharjhar Posts: 1,126
    I would call PCGS on that one. Why would anyone want to counterfeit a 1979s Quarter and why would they stick it in a proof set??? Something is goofy there!!!
    J'har
  • does anyone think that just maybe these 'problems' @ pcgs are a wake up call? and, when are you guys going to heed the message?
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  • I've got to admit that this is one of the primary reasons I trade & collect only raw coins. I have no confidence in any grading service, collect for fun, purchase only what appeals to me, and have a real problem with paying a premium for "slabs".

    Just my two cents (for what it's worth).

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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    I just talked to PCGS, it was there error. I was instructed to send the coin back as soon as I get it. I still can't figure out the crappy grades on the proofs. I have been very careful on what I have been sending in. I wonder how many bonus fingerprints I'm going to get!!!image
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • BNEBNE Posts: 772
    I echo your discouragement with regard to some cross-overs I sent in. The dreaded DNC.

    This seems to get worse and worse. It brings to mind the definition of insanity -- doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

    Submitting to PCGS is beginning to feel like a neurotic nervous tic to me.imageimageimageimage
    "The essence of sleight of hand is distraction and misdirection. If smoeone can be convinced that he has, through his own perspicacity, divined your hidden purposes, he will not look further."

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Marty,

    When you get the coins back, check the proofs for haze. Every time I've gotten grades much lower then expected, that's what the problem turned out to be.

    Russ, NCNE
  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Marty,

    Russ is right, it's gotta be the haze. The great news is that after a dip and another $75, you can wait to see if you get insulted again. Gotta love it, huh.

    BTW - What are you doing sending in fake quarters?
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    What can I say, maybe it's the set I bought from Deb & Clifford!!!image I guess PCGS didn't like tht smellimage
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • ditto on the haze problem. really nice mirrors disappear somewhere between here and california. i think it is the saflips but i seem to be the only one who believes that. apparently there can be no dcam when there is haze. the part i dont understand is does pcgs think we sent hazy proof coins to them? i guess they have no choice but to downgrade them but it happens way too much to ignore. i wonder if your not genuine means it is actually a type 1 coin and you graded it as a type 2. the way i understand it proof sets can be mixed on the type 1 and 2 issue for 1979 and 1981.
  • If it actually comes back in a slab marked not genuine I want it! If it cames back in a bodybag do you have to send the bodybag back? (Probably or they'll charge you again. Rats, that would be a neat bodybag to have too.)
  • I just talked to PCGS, it was there error. I was instructed to send the coin back as soon as I get it.

    How can they possibly make a mistake like that??image Does any one there actually look at moderns or are they just dumped into some big machine that spits them out with random grades attached (and of course body bags )?? I just don't understand that one, but hey at least you get to help the post office out more by spending more money on postage to send it back!!image
  • TWQGTWQG Posts: 3,145 ✭✭


    << <i>Don't bagged coins have to get looked at by someone else before they get sent back? >>



    I don't even think someone sees them, forget about else.

    I had an NGC MS66 cracked to be bagged as 'reverse wheel damage'??? I wish I knew what that was.
  • I had an NGC MS66 cracked to be bagged as 'reverse wheel damage'??? I wish I knew what that was.

    You mean to tell me you sent in a coin with a flat tire and did not even bother to change it first??? Or was the rim just cracked from loose lug nuts??

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