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  • a2labmoma2labmom Posts: 1,623
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  • jakemrjrjakemrjr Posts: 98 ✭
    I like the statement .... "Don't worry, I am not asking near that amount on the PR69 DCAM's!"

    Ooh well good, he's only going to make you pay 10x
  • CalGoldCalGold Posts: 2,608 ✭✭
    For every guy asking way over market for coins on ebay are bidders bidding way under market, like people who bid $200 in a dealer's reserve auction of a coin worth $2,000. What are they thinking?
  • BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭
    What so bad is there will be someone that will pay that.

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  • RLinnRLinn Posts: 596 ✭
    Help me out here. Where is the cameo the seller talks about. Do I need cataracts to see it?
    Buy the coin...but be sure to pay for it.
  • goyankeezgoyankeez Posts: 357
    ...I think not deep enough to be considered DCAM

    Really?
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  • Rob0126Rob0126 Posts: 142 ✭
    When I saw the Blue and Red lettering, I think I went blind for a few seconds. image

    The title says MS69. Since when is a PR69, considered MS69?

    Anyways, nice coin though, but I wouldn't pay that kind of cash for one, unless of course, it was MS69. image

    Hey, you know what we need to do? We need to start a good thread on ebay. What I mean is post links to good sellers and their warez.

    Robert
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  • goyankeezgoyankeez Posts: 357
    Rob, I was thinking the same thing. Maybe somebody can get a website or something together, that rates the sellers on ebay. Or at least puts them into good, ok, and bad categories. Lots of threads ask if anyone has had experience with a particular seller on ebay.

    I can go for a McDonalds Value Meal about now, supersized of course.
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Anyways, nice coin though >>



    And, extremely common. I have several rolls in the same condition.

    Russ, NCNE
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  • DCAMFranklinDCAMFranklin Posts: 2,862 ✭✭
    Looks like somebody wanting to waste $50 of Ebay listing fees. I'm pretty sure he won't have to worry about paying any final value fees. Some of these coins you can buy in the PCGS holder, at the same grade, as he is charging for his RAW "questionable grade". A combination that draws few/no bids.
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    i guess i'll be the lone source of disagreement here. it SOUNDS to me like this fella has expressed HIS OPINION about the coin. does it make him right? NO does it make him wrong??? NO. i don't think the approach that he must be a "scam" or "inept" or "stupid" or "on drugs" is really appropriate.

    WHEN did it become so horrible for someone to express his opinion about a coin's grade??? gee, i don't suppose plastic has something to do with it, does it?

    if you don't like the coin ........... DON'T BUY IT.

    K S
  • 1956Quarter1956Quarter Posts: 400
    Where does he get Cameo?????? I see NO Cameo there at all.
  • UncleJoeUncleJoe Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭
    dorkkarl, I agree. This auction does not make the seller a scam artist.

    He has a return policy AND the coin has been conservatively graded by him/her.

    Joe.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>WHEN did it become so horrible for someone to express his opinion about a coin's grade??? >>



    It isn't, except when that opinion is so far from reality that it becomes laughable.



    << <i>He has a return policy AND the coin has been conservatively graded by him/her. >>



    Huh? Have you looked at the stuff he has up? There's nothing conservative about his approach. He is calling brilliants CAMs, and lightly cameo'd coins DCAMs. He's completely lost. As for his return policy, hopefully nobody will be gullible enough to pay 15 to 20 times the value of his coins and need the policy.

    Anybody who wants to hand over this kind of money for these 1964 proofs, just let me know. I have tons just as good sitting in rolls.

    Russ, NCNE

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  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    russ, YOUR opinion is that he grade is laughable. then go ahead and laugh! but somebody else might agree with the grade!

    but to begin type-casting words like "scam" and "inept" does NOT make your opinion very palatable for a lot of people. i'm not trying to be caustic here, i just think that your approach is uncalled for. maybe a better title for your thread would be "i laughed when i saw this grade". then it leaves the conversation open to others opinions. unless you were intentionally wanting to stave off other opinoins to begin with!?!?!?

    and if you have tons of proofs like that , try selling them! heck, you might make some good contacts, strike up some good conversations.

    K S
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>and if you have tons of proofs like that , try selling them! >>



    Why would I sell them? I collect them.

    Let me put this another way. You can buy between 10 and 20 complete 1964 proof sets in the price ranges this seller is asking for the raw 1964 Kennedy halves alone. The vast majority of the halves in these sets grade at 67 or better, which is what most of his coins will grade. Tell me this guy's auctions are not the very definition of stupidity.

    Russ, NCNE
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  • EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Karl,

    I think it is entirely possible to express one's own opinion and still be considered either stupid or a scam.

    I think this guy's a scam because he clearly is not a true experienced professional coin dealer, yet has done up his offering nicely and forcefully expressed his grading opinion of his coin. He knows he doesn't know coins, but has intentionally stated (as opposed to suggested) his grading opinion. To me, there is clear intent.

    However, I don't wish to attribute a strong motive to defraud to this guy. He could genuinely think his coin is superb, and that would make his action a little scam and a big stupid.

    If he knowingly lied about the coin's grade, then his action is a big scam.

    Either way, a chump posing as a pro is a scam!

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  • SeekerSeeker Posts: 12
    I dont want to mess with those hidden in the bank still valeable Kennedeys, it was overhyped in 1964 ond is still overhyped, and if a few are worth messin with, good luck getting them.
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    no problem w/ me for calling his auction "stupid". it may or may not be. my only concern is labeling something as a "scam" before there is any evidence that someone got ripped off agains his will. now if this dude were cracking up pcgs slabs, putting low-grade Ken's in em and gluing them back together, then trying to pass them off, etc. , THAT would be a scam.

    i happen to think his asking price is stupid. then again, so is the asking price on a lot of cars. does that mean car ads are scams???

    K S
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,963 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>and if you have tons of proofs like that , try selling them! >>

    Why would I sell them? I collect them. Let me put this another way. You can buy between 10 and 20 complete 1964 proof sets in the price ranges this seller is asking for the raw 1964 Kennedy halves alone. The vast majority of the halves in these sets grade at 67 or better, which is what most of his coins will grade. Tell me this guy's auctions are not the very definition of stupidity. Russ, NCNE >>


    I just checked out this seller's auction. $24.95 opening bid (34.95 with a BIN) is a scam? PR69's DO sell well within this range and his Kennedy looks like it might be that PR69 coin.
    Regardless, please show me where I can purchase 10 (let alone 20) complete 1964 Proof sets for $25.00 ($2.50 per set, or $1.25 per set @ 20) and I'm an instant buyer!

    peacockcoins

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Pat,

    He edited his listings. When I posted this, they ranged between $125 and $250. I'm not that stupid.

    Russ, NCNE
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  • baccarudabaccaruda Posts: 2,588 ✭✭
    man, that's a nice one though.

    i'm getting it.

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,963 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Pat, He edited his listings. When I posted this, they ranged between $125 and $250. I'm not that stupid. Russ, NCNE >>



    Agreed. $125.00 for a raw Proof Kennedy? That is Stupid and Lame all at the same time and does border on SCAM.

    My definition of SCAM is when a Seller attempts to sell you a product (like QVC?) at 10X's- 20X's the retail rate.

    peacockcoins

  • presleyhpresleyh Posts: 516
    russ, i thought something had changed on his auction. he had a light cameo kennedy half for $250.00 yesterday. he was clearly trying to scam someone into the "trust me this is a good deal" scam. at his current price it doesnt look quite so bad. it is still just a 5.00 coin, but the hype is only five fold. sort of like the ford commercial where the pickup truck pulls the gigantic ship across an ice field. totally impossible, pure lies. and yet there are people who believe it is true.
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  • Rob0126Rob0126 Posts: 142 ✭
    or the ford commercial where the chairman says that ford trucks are the toughest on the planet. ROFL

    Robert
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  • Rob0126Rob0126 Posts: 142 ✭
    yeh, mcdonalds frys are good. I had to slim down a bit on them because I need to lose a few pounds. Plus moving furniture all day, you need some healthy stuff in yah. But boy those fries are good, bout make myself hungry just looking at it. image

    Robert
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  • PhillyJoePhillyJoe Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭✭
    Good feedback, but his 22 other conservatively graded auctions don't have a single bid. I sometimes wonder , if this is such a good deal why is no one bidding.

    Joe
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  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    naturally, if someone belives something other than what you believe, or buys something for a price you would never pay, then he or she was "scammed", right?

    K S

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