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Merc guys (or anyone) What do you think of the 20-S in 66 in Monday Teletrade Auction

DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Looks pretty nice to me, but wanted other opions.

Jon

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  • python1python1 Posts: 789
    Here is a link to look at.... pcgs ms 66 20s

    It has the usual weak rev strike (of the ones I have held), and the obv appears to be there. Maybe a decent coin for someone that likes the original patina..instead of full white....just my opinion...

    Dennis

    My Dimes

    << If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right the first time! >>
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dennis:
      New Word "Original Patina" Big Smile when I saw that.image
        Jon:
          I like everything about the Dime except the 0 in 1920 appears to run into the Rim. That and Broken Nose Merc's turn me off. Some of the 66 grades that come out of PCGS are suspect also. Just MHO on the Dime and the Grades.

          Original Patina is a Cool Phrase.....image

          Ken

          Editted: To try too corrrect My looouseey Speellling. Geez
        1. python1python1 Posts: 789
          Ken:
          I thought you would get a kick out of that...imageimage

          "Original Patina"..hmmmmmm can cover alot of things....imageimage
          Dennis

          My Dimes

          << If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right the first time! >>
        2. DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

          I like that "original patina" also Ken. Another new word for toned and undipped.

          My main concern was the chin. If that is a hit and not some kind of light reflection, that would kill a 66 rating for me.

          It will be interesting to see how the bidding goes.

          Thanks dennis and ken and dennis for the link.

          Jon
        3. FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
          Just to Clue everyone in. "Original Patina" has been discussed by Dennis and Myself via PM. Seems He is a "White Dime Guy" and I am a "Original Patina Dime Guy" we have some interesting discussions on the subject.

          Note to All:

          Dennis is Slowly Relenting to the Original Patina Coins as long as the Original Patina is Very Light.imageimage

          Ken
        4. FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
          Jon:

          I saw the Hit but it looked rather small to Me and not in the middle of Her Cheek. Accordingly some small hits are allowed. But then this theory has fooled Me on some dimes graded MS64 and 65 that have No Hits. image

          Ken
        5. CocoinutCocoinut Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
          I like the looks of it. The photo isn't very sharp, and after blowing it up using TT's DjVu I still can't tell for sure if it has a broken nose. It's a pop 1 coin in NB, with none higher; pop of 4 in FB, with 2 higher. The CU price guide lists it at $1625. They're usually too high, but the TT estimate is $1750-$2250, so you'd probably have to go to at least $1700 to reach the reserve, and then the 10% buyer's fee on top of that.

          BTW, you guys are tough!! I just added a couple Mercs to my set, set then looked at the standings. image There's a lot of red near the top of the chart today. Some very nice additions and upgrades. Congrats to all.image

          Jim
          Countdown to completion of my Mercury Set: 1 coin. My growing Lincoln Set: Finally completed!
        6. DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

          Ken

          I know what you mean. I was just out at the Merc Dime Registry, lot of red out there. I was looking at a lot of pics and saw a 64 in someones set (can't remember date either) that looked like a 66 or even 67. It just looked perfect!

          Jon
        7. FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
          Jon:
            I really do not know why they (Grading Services) are so strict with Merc Dimes. Sometimes I believe they just plain do not like them. For the life of Me I cannot figure out why this 16P only got a 64 grade. I had it For Sale last week and people did not want it. They missed a very nice dime. Not For Sale now though...image

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          1. python1python1 Posts: 789
            Jon,
            You are very welcome.....Ken taught me that trick..links that is.....

            Ken,
            Very very light on the patina...lolimage

            Jim,
            Thanks for comp.....imageimage
            Dennis

            My Dimes

            << If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right the first time! >>
          2. python1python1 Posts: 789
            Hey guys,
            I just finished updating all my pics on my dime set.......image
            Dennis

            My Dimes

            << If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right the first time! >>
          3. DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

            Ken,

            I think the smaller the coin the less hits it can have. If a Morgan Dollar was as clean as that 16-P you just posted it would be a 67 or 68. I have seen soooo many Mercs in 64 holders that are just beautiful. Your 16-P is a perfect example.

            JMHO Jon
          4. FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
            Jon:

            I suppose if the 66 Dime does not work out you could always save yourself $1200 and put a Doggy 64 like this one in your set. Blast White with Zippo on the Original Patina. Really fairly Ugly to Fugly. image

            image

            image

            Weak Strike with Bands only Partial. Man what a Dog !!
          5. orevilleoreville Posts: 12,002 ✭✭✭✭✭
            That 20-S I saw pics of earlier looks very attractive....however closer inspection is needed to see what lurks on the nose and chin as others have pointed out. Too hard to tell for sure.

            Pictures can hide those problems but the luster does look outstanding.
            A Collectors Universe poster since 1997!
          6. DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

            Ken

            I hope you had your tongue in cheek on that last remark. I would take your 20-S in 64FB in a heartbeat. I just haven't seen any 20-S Mercs in any grade that I like that's not already in someone set, like yours. 66 isn't really the grade I prefer in that time period, but it is nice.

            Why don't you just sell me yours and you go for the 66???? Sounds like a plan to me.

            Jon
          7. FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
            Jon:
              I was sort of Hitting on the gradeing question again. The 20S I have is really pretty nice and almost a FB Coin. I do not think it will get away from me for quite some time. I go along with you on the 20S. They are really quite hard to find Nice. I think in the last year or so I have only seen 1 that I would purchase and someone here got it. Royality Coins had it.

              Now the one We Really need is the Monster Cool Coin that is in the Joshua Set that came from the Kritzman Collection. Its been 6 or 8 months and I can still see that coin in my mind. A Real out and out Gem the coin is for sure.

              Ken
            1. CocoinutCocoinut Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
              I can't believe Ken would allow such a doggy, "no patina" coin in his set! What's up with that, Ken? image You should put it on e-Bay with a $325 reserve. I guarantee that it would sell, probably to a board member. Preferring white or lightly toned Mercs, I wouldn't mind having a duplicate myself.image


              I was the one who got the '20-S from Royalty. image


              Jim
              Countdown to completion of my Mercury Set: 1 coin. My growing Lincoln Set: Finally completed!
            2. FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
              Jim:

              The Mind is Failing. I knew it was You or Rick that got it but did not want too look like a bigger Bozo than already perceived. image I think I will keep mine and keep looking for other nice examples for some of the other guys. By the way Guys the one that Jim got is a Nice Dime Also. image

              Ken
            3. python1python1 Posts: 789
              image


              Here is my 20-s, it has "Original Patina".....lol, but a weak strike....I call it washed out strike....
              Dennis

              My Dimes

              << If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right the first time! >>
            4. TAP444TAP444 Posts: 824
              here is a pic og my 20-s,actually much lighter than this pic

              TIm
              LOOKING FOR 1931-s merc that is nice for the grade and fb
            5. DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭


              Stop it you guys. Am I the only one here that doesn't have a 20-S?

              I feel left out and all sad and alone here.

              Jon
            6. CocoinutCocoinut Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
              I didn't realize this had turned into "show and tell". Here's my '20-S. The holder has a smudge right over the center crossband, but they are better than 50% full.

              Sorry, Jon. image Hope you find one you like.

              Jim
              Countdown to completion of my Mercury Set: 1 coin. My growing Lincoln Set: Finally completed!
            7. DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

              That does it. Now that everybody has rubbed their 20-S in my nose, I'm going to bed and pout.

              See ya all tomorrow after I dream about getting my 20-S!

              Jon
            8. orevilleoreville Posts: 12,002 ✭✭✭✭✭
              dimeman: I don't have a 20-S either. You would think I have everything? Noo...Those 16-D and 45-P's keep me plenty occupied!
              A Collectors Universe poster since 1997!
            9. FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
              Please Excuse if this does not turn out nicely. Here is the 20S that All Others are compared to. You will notice the Nice Original Patina on this Fab Coin.

              image
            10. orevilleoreville Posts: 12,002 ✭✭✭✭✭
              Notice:

              Some of you are using the term patina incorrectly. Patina is defined as corrosion usually on copper and bronze coins and sometimes on silver coins. It is usually putrid green in color such as the kind seen on copper pipes when they begin to corrode around the joints.

              A Collectors Universe poster since 1997!
            11. DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

              Ken

              Very very very nice coin. It will do fine in my set. please send as soon as possible.

              Jon

              P.S. When I woke up this morning I still didn't have a 20-S!
            12. FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
              Oreville:

              The Use of Patina is sort of a Inside Joke between a couple of the Merc Collectors, Myself included. Just used to Fetch a Smile when a couple of Guys read the Post. Sorry for the wrong use of the term.

              Jon:

              I hope the owner of that 20S does not get ticked off at Me for showing his Dime. That is the best I could do for the coin picture wise. It is the 20S example in the Joshua Set. Its the Ex-Kritzman example in MS67FB. By far IMO one of the Prettiest Merc's I have ever seen. image You will have to talk to him.

              Ken

              Edit to correct Spelling.

              See You All later on. Fairlaneman is jumping into his Fairlane and going to the Annual "All Ford Car Show" Yes I am Bias on this Subject just as I am with Merc Dimes. See Ya !!
            13. python1python1 Posts: 789
              Well said Ken,...inside joke.......
              Hey I just realized a few minutes ago, one year ago (12th- tomorrow) is when I signed up on here. I just want to say thank you all for the knowledge that I have learned from everyone, especially from Ken, who managed to keep me on my toes about the mercs. But all have played a part in my collection, form buying form ya'll or just talking about a coin. Well, thats it, and I know before I get flamed, I better shut up. Thanks agian for a great year!image

              Dennis

              My Dimes

              << If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right the first time! >>
            14. FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
              Another Boo Boo. Forgot to enter anything before hitting the Button to Post.

              Dennis:

              It is hard to believe it has been a Year !! I am suprised You have been able to put up with the constant Rambling and Lunacy that has emerged from My Keyboard without telling Me to Take a Long Hike into the Beautiful Oregon Forests with hope of No Return. You have only put up with Me for 360 days as the 17th is when I registered here. Much Knowledge has been assimilated for myself from the Members also and I really Truly Appreciate this out pourin from All.

              Ken
            15. PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
              I don't have a 20-s either and not currently in the market for one. I don't have the cash no. Maybe some dayimage
              I will have to look for one raw and cherry pick one up

              Pat
              Pat Vetter,Mercury Dime registry set,1938 Proof set registry,Pat & BJ Coins:724-325-7211


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