Wow I didnt know there was a grade ms15 . I guess its going to be the next big collector thing in coins. Here I was trying to get the ms67,68.69.70s I could. Heck if I knew there were ms15 I would have been going for those this whole time.
Byron
Im unemployed again after 1.5 years with Kittyhawk they let me go.
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
Back in the days when the ANA was developing the modified Sheldon grading system there was some discussion about how actually the numbers were all that were needed and that it would be possible to do away with the adjectives altogether. Some thing like MS-15 would be perfectly fine because it would indicate a business strike coin in (Fine) 15 grade. The concept never gained acceptance though and the adjectives stayed. However I think these we have been seeing are just aquality control problem at PCGS.
Well the scan isn't so hot. But MS15 seems like a glamorizing of a F-15.
I love those sellers that put F- or VF- to try and highlight the higher grade. HEY BUDDY...there is a grade for F-, it is called VG10 or F15/F18 for the VF- hypsters.
The cover of the August 6th Numismatic News has a 1946 War Nickel PCGS graded MS12. The article actually brings up the "error" on the part of PCGS. Not sure that is means much though, as the number tells the story, not the letters in front (unless it is PR vs. MS)
Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
<< <i>PCGS has been doing this a lot lately. Perhaps they are going away from the non-numerical descriptions. >>
Could be that this is there way of getting more of us to send them back in to be regarded ( sending them more money). If there are 70 grades then you can try to upgrade that f12 to a f13
DAN
United States Air Force Retired And Would Do It Again.
It seems we should ask the question, Have they changed the way they designate grades. For the last week I've been seeing this a lot on all types of coins.
Maybe it wasn't a typo, but the new way of doing things at PCGS. PR used for proof. Why not MS for the business strike coins? Proof is not a condition, but a method of manufacture as they say. Well, MS will now denote a method of manufacture for the business strikes. Now we will have to contend with the impaired MS-15 versus the old, F-15. Mint State is a method of manufacture, not a condition!
Know where I can pick up a genuine 1804 Bust Dollar in the $300 to $350 range?
Comments
I hate it when you see my post before I can edit the spelling.
Always looking for nice type coins
my local dealer
Byron
My first YOU SUCK on May 6 2005
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
I love those sellers that put F- or VF- to try and highlight the higher grade. HEY BUDDY...there is a grade for F-, it is called VG10 or F15/F18 for the VF- hypsters.
It is all part of the promotion side of coins.
Tyler
<< <i>PCGS has been doing this a lot lately. Perhaps they are going away from the non-numerical descriptions. >>
Could be that this is there way of getting more of us to send them back in to be regarded ( sending them more money). If there are 70 grades then you can try to upgrade that f12 to a f13
DAN
My first tassa slap 3/3/04
My shiny cents
The half I am getting rid of and me, forever and always Taken in about 1959
If you do a certification check in their database it comes up MS-15 also.
DAN
My first tassa slap 3/3/04
My shiny cents
The half I am getting rid of and me, forever and always Taken in about 1959
Ebay
Looking for PCGS AU58 Washington's, 32-63.
designset
Treasury Seals Type Set
<< <i>Is there really a grade F-18? >>
It's reserved only for Navy and honorably discharged Navy people.
--------T O M---------
-------------------------
<< <i>MS means mint state, they should use BS for business strike. >>
Bull S*** (Get it? BS ) MS is JUST FINE!!! (it makes it look like Braddick has an UNC set)