Can a coin with zits be a PR70?

Russ

Looks like Kennedy needs some Clearasil.

Russ, NCNE

BBN

Looks like he has blackheads!!!

Bear

RUSS - I WOULDNT BID ON THAT COIN AT ANY PRICE. BEAR (Even if you included a 50 gallon industrial size drum of clearasil.)

Dog97

It's not a PQ MS70. Does that make any sense?

Placid

It might have developed them after slabbing. Maybe the owner feed him to many french fries.

mnmcoin

I guess that is like asking if Pamela Anderson had a little patch of acne, would you still want her?

morris <><

Strat

Morris, I don't know about acne, but she does have hepatitis (B strain I think).

silverandvinyl

All depends 0n who owns it.!!!!!!!!

cointagious

there's a couple of fly specks on the rev shield, too. makes you wonder, with the surface contamination complaints coming to light on the boards recently, whether this moisture problem was caused at pcgs or not...

i wonder if the submitter asked for a finger print and just got spittle instead.

DHeath

Russ, I like this post. Most collectors haven't seen PR70s, and assume they must be 10x nicer than PR69's. I don't believe in the grade. By definition, PR69 appears perfect to the unaided eye. I have several Kennedys that have the same problem in the sideburns as this one. Several of them are slabbed too, but at PR69. I always wondered why the spots at the high point of the strike didn't eliminate the dcam designation. I also have one that has a single sideburn hair that is brilliant in a dcam holder. I'm unsure why defects in what to me is the main focal area don't attract more interest from the graders.

supercoin

As Don mentions -- that's not contamination or flyspecks, it's small breaks in the cameo. Often the metal doesn't fully flow into the deepest portion of the dies (highest point of the coin), or there might be some debris in the deep part of the die that prevents it from imparting the cameo to the coin.

Not defending the grade, though.

ClarkOfKent

Those aren't zits... he just shaved a little too close that morning. Happens to me all the time.

Bear

Clark of Kent - OK, I can relate to a coin with ingrown hair, it works for me. Bear

andy007

Don and Tad have the correct answer. It is due to the strike of the coin. Some of those small frost breaks are also apparent on the shield on the reverse and is found more common on heavily frosted Kennedy proofs than a typical frosty Kennedy proof from my experience.

edited due to poor spelling

mnmcoin

Sometime the frost breaks or frost fades occur from the erosion or wearing of the acid bath effect on the incuse area of the dies.

morris <><

supercoin

Actually, cameo for this year was created by sandblasting, not the earlier acid-etching technique.

I've seen the cameo "wear" that you mention, but I don't know if that would explain these spots, because they're in the deepest recesses of the die and should be the last to wear out.

Russ

Un-friggin-believable. That thing is already up to $550.

Russ, NCNE

relayer

Yes, but only when the coin is in puberty , which today would be coins dated 1982-1989