My coin was received yesterday by PCGS, and this morning I received an email from eBay saying, "Congrats! Your item was authenticated." It is pretty fast. I like it. I think the program is good for both the buyer and the seller. I don't understand why there are so many negative comments about the program. I guess that gives a good opportunity for people to post something.
My certified coin was received yesterday; pretty much 2 days coast to coast when I ship priority to PCGS. The hopefully happy customer should have it next week.
I purchased a Morgan on Friday 9/18, received by USPS on Sat 9/19 in NJ, went to Philadelphia 9/22, then Arizona 9/24. Where is the authenticator location? Basically, I'm at a week without it even being received by them, let alone when I'll see it...
I've had several authentications go smooth so far but had an interesting case today. I had two 2026 Mayflower compact quarters sold as a pair in one listing for well over $500, and individually each valued over $500. It was listed in the America The Beautiful (2010-Now) quarter category, which is where all 2026 quarters are listed because ebay hasn't bothered to adjust the title to reflect that the category is used for American Women and other post 2009 quarter programs. They stated that:
We wanted to let you know that your item is on its way to the buyer. Unfortunately, the authenticator determined that the item was miscategorized and is therefore ineligible for our Authenticity Guarantee.
This may be disappointing for your buyer, so if you have similar listings, we recommend you update the item details to ensure this doesn’t happen again. In the meantime, we’ll notify them to let them know their order is on the way.
I guess they want this listed in the "Lots & Collections" category even though it is not wrong to put it where I put it. I'm not sure what I can do in the future to "ensure this doesn't happen again." Fortunately they are still sending it to the buyer. Seems like ebay should learn how to handle situations like this to ensure this doesn't happen again. I'm not sure that I need to do anything differently.
@ProofCollection said:
I've had several authentications go smooth so far but had an interesting case today. I had two 2026 Mayflower compact quarters sold as a pair in one listing for well over $500, and individually each valued over $500. It was listed in the America The Beautiful (2010-Now) quarter category, which is where all 2026 quarters are listed because ebay hasn't bothered to adjust the title to reflect that the category is used for American Women and other post 2009 quarter programs. They stated that:
We wanted to let you know that your item is on its way to the buyer. Unfortunately, the authenticator determined that the item was miscategorized and is therefore ineligible for our Authenticity Guarantee.
This may be disappointing for your buyer, so if you have similar listings, we recommend you update the item details to ensure this doesn’t happen again. In the meantime, we’ll notify them to let them know their order is on the way.
I guess they want this listed in the "Lots & Collections" category even though it is not wrong to put it where I put it. I'm not sure what I can do in the future to "ensure this doesn't happen again." Fortunately they are still sending it to the buyer. Seems like ebay should learn how to handle situations like this to ensure this doesn't happen again. I'm not sure that I need to do anything differently.
This is pretty confused. "ineligible for our Authenticity Guarantee" but the coin is still on the way to the buyer? I thought PCGS only to make sure the coin is not counterfeit.
@ProofCollection said:
I've had several authentications go smooth so far but had an interesting case today. I had two 2026 Mayflower compact quarters sold as a pair in one listing for well over $500, and individually each valued over $500. It was listed in the America The Beautiful (2010-Now) quarter category, which is where all 2026 quarters are listed because ebay hasn't bothered to adjust the title to reflect that the category is used for American Women and other post 2009 quarter programs. They stated that:
We wanted to let you know that your item is on its way to the buyer. Unfortunately, the authenticator determined that the item was miscategorized and is therefore ineligible for our Authenticity Guarantee.
This may be disappointing for your buyer, so if you have similar listings, we recommend you update the item details to ensure this doesn’t happen again. In the meantime, we’ll notify them to let them know their order is on the way.
I guess they want this listed in the "Lots & Collections" category even though it is not wrong to put it where I put it. I'm not sure what I can do in the future to "ensure this doesn't happen again." Fortunately they are still sending it to the buyer. Seems like ebay should learn how to handle situations like this to ensure this doesn't happen again. I'm not sure that I need to do anything differently.
This is pretty confused. "ineligible for our Authenticity Guarantee" but the coin is still on the way to the buyer? I thought PCGS only to make sure the coin is not counterfeit.
They don't handle lots of multiple coins.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
@ProofCollection said:
I've had several authentications go smooth so far but had an interesting case today. I had two 2026 Mayflower compact quarters sold as a pair in one listing for well over $500, and individually each valued over $500. It was listed in the America The Beautiful (2010-Now) quarter category, which is where all 2026 quarters are listed because ebay hasn't bothered to adjust the title to reflect that the category is used for American Women and other post 2009 quarter programs. They stated that:
We wanted to let you know that your item is on its way to the buyer. Unfortunately, the authenticator determined that the item was miscategorized and is therefore ineligible for our Authenticity Guarantee.
This may be disappointing for your buyer, so if you have similar listings, we recommend you update the item details to ensure this doesn’t happen again. In the meantime, we’ll notify them to let them know their order is on the way.
I guess they want this listed in the "Lots & Collections" category even though it is not wrong to put it where I put it. I'm not sure what I can do in the future to "ensure this doesn't happen again." Fortunately they are still sending it to the buyer. Seems like ebay should learn how to handle situations like this to ensure this doesn't happen again. I'm not sure that I need to do anything differently.
This is pretty confused. "ineligible for our Authenticity Guarantee" but the coin is still on the way to the buyer? I thought PCGS only to make sure the coin is not counterfeit.
I no longer sell on eBay. They declared all my listings counterfeit, and I take strong exception to that accusation. My coins were legitimate, and I resented like hell the implication that I was a liar and a cheat trying to deceive buyers. I take my honesty and reputation seriously, and I found their treatment deeply insulting.
Once I factored in shipping costs, fees, and the time involved, I was better off accepting a lower price from a local coin dealer. The economics alone made leaving worthwhile. Having my integrity called into question made the decision final.
@ProofCollection said:
I've had several authentications go smooth so far but had an interesting case today. I had two 2026 Mayflower compact quarters sold as a pair in one listing for well over $500, and individually each valued over $500. It was listed in the America The Beautiful (2010-Now) quarter category, which is where all 2026 quarters are listed because ebay hasn't bothered to adjust the title to reflect that the category is used for American Women and other post 2009 quarter programs. They stated that:
We wanted to let you know that your item is on its way to the buyer. Unfortunately, the authenticator determined that the item was miscategorized and is therefore ineligible for our Authenticity Guarantee.
This may be disappointing for your buyer, so if you have similar listings, we recommend you update the item details to ensure this doesn’t happen again. In the meantime, we’ll notify them to let them know their order is on the way.
I guess they want this listed in the "Lots & Collections" category even though it is not wrong to put it where I put it. I'm not sure what I can do in the future to "ensure this doesn't happen again." Fortunately they are still sending it to the buyer. Seems like ebay should learn how to handle situations like this to ensure this doesn't happen again. I'm not sure that I need to do anything differently.
This is pretty confused. "ineligible for our Authenticity Guarantee" but the coin is still on the way to the buyer? I thought PCGS only to make sure the coin is not counterfeit.
They don't handle lots of multiple coins.> @ProofCollection said:
@ProofCollection said:
I've had several authentications go smooth so far but had an interesting case today. I had two 2026 Mayflower compact quarters sold as a pair in one listing for well over $500, and individually each valued over $500. It was listed in the America The Beautiful (2010-Now) quarter category, which is where all 2026 quarters are listed because ebay hasn't bothered to adjust the title to reflect that the category is used for American Women and other post 2009 quarter programs. They stated that:
We wanted to let you know that your item is on its way to the buyer. Unfortunately, the authenticator determined that the item was miscategorized and is therefore ineligible for our Authenticity Guarantee.
This may be disappointing for your buyer, so if you have similar listings, we recommend you update the item details to ensure this doesn’t happen again. In the meantime, we’ll notify them to let them know their order is on the way.
I guess they want this listed in the "Lots & Collections" category even though it is not wrong to put it where I put it. I'm not sure what I can do in the future to "ensure this doesn't happen again." Fortunately they are still sending it to the buyer. Seems like ebay should learn how to handle situations like this to ensure this doesn't happen again. I'm not sure that I need to do anything differently.
This is pretty confused. "ineligible for our Authenticity Guarantee" but the coin is still on the way to the buyer? I thought PCGS only to make sure the coin is not counterfeit.
They don't handle lots of multiple coins.
I didn't have a choice.
I know. I was just explaining to jt88 why the were ineligible.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
@BEBPE said:
I no longer sell on eBay. They declared all my listings counterfeit, and I take strong exception to that accusation. My coins were legitimate, and I resented like hell the implication that I was a liar and a cheat trying to deceive buyers. I take my honesty and reputation seriously, and I found their treatment deeply insulting.
Once I factored in shipping costs, fees, and the time involved, I was better off accepting a lower price from a local coin dealer. The economics alone made leaving worthwhile. Having my integrity called into question made the decision final.
This is fascinating, given what the usual suggestion is about ebay and counterfeits. Do you have details? Do you know who reported your listings?
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
I mounted my listings in slabs that I purchased and provided a computer generated grading report.
here is a picture and the grading report
This is the item you will receive. It is not a stock photo.
ChatGTP Numismatic
Coin Grading Report
1. Coin Identification
• Coin: Walking Liberty Half Dollar
• Date: 1942
• Mint: Philadelphia
• Mint Mark: None visible
• Type: Walking Liberty Half Dollar
• Composition: 90% silver, 10% copper
• Strike Type: Business Strike
• Denomination: 50 Cents
2. Estimated Grade
Estimated Grade: MS62 to MS63
Best Single-Point Estimate: MS63
Based on the photos, this coin appears to be an uncirculated 1942 Walking Liberty half dollar with no clear wear on Liberty’s high points or the eagle’s major design elements. The coin shows enough remaining mint-state character to support a Mint State grade, but the surfaces appear somewhat subdued by the lighting, slab glare, and a light layer of haze or minor field chatter. My best estimate is MS63, which is in line with a lower-to-mid Mint State example.
3. Strike Assessment
The strike appears average to slightly above average for the issue. Liberty’s main gown lines remain visible, and the reverse eagle shows decent feather structure, though not razor sharp in every area. Some apparent softness may be photographic rather than actual weakness, especially on the reverse.
Strike Score: 7.5/10
4. Luster
There appears to be moderate mint luster remaining, though it is difficult to fully judge because the images are affected by strong pinkish lighting and slab reflection. The coin does not appear dull or circulated, but it also does not show the booming flash expected from a higher-end Mint State piece.
Luster Score: 7.0/10
5. Surface Preservation
The surfaces look generally solid for an uncirculated coin, but there appear to be scattered small contact marks, light abrasions, and some mild haze or spotting. The obverse fields and Liberty’s gown show minor disturbances, and the reverse seems to have a few small marks as well. Nothing jumps out as severe, but the surfaces do not appear especially clean for a gem-level coin.
Surface Preservation Score: 6.8/10
6. Eye Appeal
Eye appeal is pleasant but not premium. The coin has an attractive original Mint State look, but the photography limits its visual impact, and the luster seems somewhat muted. In hand, it may look a bit better than these images suggest, but from the photos alone this looks like a nice, honest MS63 type of coin rather than a standout.
Eye Appeal Score: 7.0/10
7. Positive Attributes
• Clearly appears uncirculated
• Attractive classic Walking Liberty design
• Decent strike for the issue
• Good remaining detail on both obverse and reverse
• Solid type-coin quality for a Mint State example
8. Detracting Factors
• Some scattered contact marks and light abrasions
• Luster appears somewhat muted in the photos
• Possible light haze or surface film
• Slab glare and pink lighting reduce clarity of the images
• Not enough apparent surface quality for a high-end Mint State grade
9. Straight Grade Probability
Probability of Straight Grade: 92%
Nothing in the photos suggests a details-grade problem. The coin appears original and market acceptable, with typical minor Mint State surface issues rather than anything severe.
10. Details Grade Risk
Details Grade Risk: 8%
The small risk comes mostly from the possibility of haze, residue, or an in-hand surface issue not fully visible in the photos. Based on what is shown here, however, I would still expect a straight Mint State grade.
11. Estimated Value
Estimated Value Range:
• Raw / uncertified equivalent: approximately $40–$60
• If certified MS63: approximately $55–$80
• If certified MS64: approximately $90–$140
Actual market value can vary depending on luster, originality, and how attractive the coin appears in hand.
12. Submission Recommendation
Recommendation: Worthy Mint State example
This looks like a legitimate Mint State 1942 Walking Liberty half dollar and a reasonable submission or collection coin if your goal is to build a solid certified set. My working opinion is MS63, with limited upside unless the coin has stronger luster and cleaner surfaces in hand than the photos reveal. If it looks brighter and more original outside the slab glare, there could be a modest chance at MS64, but MS63 is the most reasonable call from these images.
@BEBPE said:
I mounted my listings in slabs that I purchased and provided a computer generated grading report.
here is a picture and the grading report
This is the item you will receive. It is not a stock photo.
ChatGTP Numismatic
Coin Grading Report
1. Coin Identification
• Coin: Walking Liberty Half Dollar
• Date: 1942
• Mint: Philadelphia
• Mint Mark: None visible
• Type: Walking Liberty Half Dollar
• Composition: 90% silver, 10% copper
• Strike Type: Business Strike
• Denomination: 50 Cents
2. Estimated Grade
Estimated Grade: MS62 to MS63
Best Single-Point Estimate: MS63
Based on the photos, this coin appears to be an uncirculated 1942 Walking Liberty half dollar with no clear wear on Liberty’s high points or the eagle’s major design elements. The coin shows enough remaining mint-state character to support a Mint State grade, but the surfaces appear somewhat subdued by the lighting, slab glare, and a light layer of haze or minor field chatter. My best estimate is MS63, which is in line with a lower-to-mid Mint State example.
3. Strike Assessment
The strike appears average to slightly above average for the issue. Liberty’s main gown lines remain visible, and the reverse eagle shows decent feather structure, though not razor sharp in every area. Some apparent softness may be photographic rather than actual weakness, especially on the reverse.
Strike Score: 7.5/10
4. Luster
There appears to be moderate mint luster remaining, though it is difficult to fully judge because the images are affected by strong pinkish lighting and slab reflection. The coin does not appear dull or circulated, but it also does not show the booming flash expected from a higher-end Mint State piece.
Luster Score: 7.0/10
5. Surface Preservation
The surfaces look generally solid for an uncirculated coin, but there appear to be scattered small contact marks, light abrasions, and some mild haze or spotting. The obverse fields and Liberty’s gown show minor disturbances, and the reverse seems to have a few small marks as well. Nothing jumps out as severe, but the surfaces do not appear especially clean for a gem-level coin.
Surface Preservation Score: 6.8/10
6. Eye Appeal
Eye appeal is pleasant but not premium. The coin has an attractive original Mint State look, but the photography limits its visual impact, and the luster seems somewhat muted. In hand, it may look a bit better than these images suggest, but from the photos alone this looks like a nice, honest MS63 type of coin rather than a standout.
Eye Appeal Score: 7.0/10
7. Positive Attributes
• Clearly appears uncirculated
• Attractive classic Walking Liberty design
• Decent strike for the issue
• Good remaining detail on both obverse and reverse
• Solid type-coin quality for a Mint State example
8. Detracting Factors
• Some scattered contact marks and light abrasions
• Luster appears somewhat muted in the photos
• Possible light haze or surface film
• Slab glare and pink lighting reduce clarity of the images
• Not enough apparent surface quality for a high-end Mint State grade
9. Straight Grade Probability
Probability of Straight Grade: 92%
Nothing in the photos suggests a details-grade problem. The coin appears original and market acceptable, with typical minor Mint State surface issues rather than anything severe.
10. Details Grade Risk
Details Grade Risk: 8%
The small risk comes mostly from the possibility of haze, residue, or an in-hand surface issue not fully visible in the photos. Based on what is shown here, however, I would still expect a straight Mint State grade.
11. Estimated Value
Estimated Value Range:
• Raw / uncertified equivalent: approximately $40–$60
• If certified MS63: approximately $55–$80
• If certified MS64: approximately $90–$140
Actual market value can vary depending on luster, originality, and how attractive the coin appears in hand.
12. Submission Recommendation
Recommendation: Worthy Mint State example
This looks like a legitimate Mint State 1942 Walking Liberty half dollar and a reasonable submission or collection coin if your goal is to build a solid certified set. My working opinion is MS63, with limited upside unless the coin has stronger luster and cleaner surfaces in hand than the photos reveal. If it looks brighter and more original outside the slab glare, there could be a modest chance at MS64, but MS63 is the most reasonable call from these images.
Yeah. You can't provide a numerical grade unless it's in a recognized TPG holder
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
@BEBPE said:
I mounted my listings in slabs that I purchased and provided a computer generated grading report.
here is a picture and the grading report
This is the item you will receive. It is not a stock photo.
ChatGTP Numismatic
Coin Grading Report
1. Coin Identification
• Coin: Walking Liberty Half Dollar
• Date: 1942
• Mint: Philadelphia
• Mint Mark: None visible
• Type: Walking Liberty Half Dollar
• Composition: 90% silver, 10% copper
• Strike Type: Business Strike
• Denomination: 50 Cents
2. Estimated Grade
Estimated Grade: MS62 to MS63
Best Single-Point Estimate: MS63
Based on the photos, this coin appears to be an uncirculated 1942 Walking Liberty half dollar with no clear wear on Liberty’s high points or the eagle’s major design elements. The coin shows enough remaining mint-state character to support a Mint State grade, but the surfaces appear somewhat subdued by the lighting, slab glare, and a light layer of haze or minor field chatter. My best estimate is MS63, which is in line with a lower-to-mid Mint State example.
3. Strike Assessment
The strike appears average to slightly above average for the issue. Liberty’s main gown lines remain visible, and the reverse eagle shows decent feather structure, though not razor sharp in every area. Some apparent softness may be photographic rather than actual weakness, especially on the reverse.
Strike Score: 7.5/10
4. Luster
There appears to be moderate mint luster remaining, though it is difficult to fully judge because the images are affected by strong pinkish lighting and slab reflection. The coin does not appear dull or circulated, but it also does not show the booming flash expected from a higher-end Mint State piece.
Luster Score: 7.0/10
5. Surface Preservation
The surfaces look generally solid for an uncirculated coin, but there appear to be scattered small contact marks, light abrasions, and some mild haze or spotting. The obverse fields and Liberty’s gown show minor disturbances, and the reverse seems to have a few small marks as well. Nothing jumps out as severe, but the surfaces do not appear especially clean for a gem-level coin.
Surface Preservation Score: 6.8/10
6. Eye Appeal
Eye appeal is pleasant but not premium. The coin has an attractive original Mint State look, but the photography limits its visual impact, and the luster seems somewhat muted. In hand, it may look a bit better than these images suggest, but from the photos alone this looks like a nice, honest MS63 type of coin rather than a standout.
Eye Appeal Score: 7.0/10
7. Positive Attributes
• Clearly appears uncirculated
• Attractive classic Walking Liberty design
• Decent strike for the issue
• Good remaining detail on both obverse and reverse
• Solid type-coin quality for a Mint State example
8. Detracting Factors
• Some scattered contact marks and light abrasions
• Luster appears somewhat muted in the photos
• Possible light haze or surface film
• Slab glare and pink lighting reduce clarity of the images
• Not enough apparent surface quality for a high-end Mint State grade
9. Straight Grade Probability
Probability of Straight Grade: 92%
Nothing in the photos suggests a details-grade problem. The coin appears original and market acceptable, with typical minor Mint State surface issues rather than anything severe.
10. Details Grade Risk
Details Grade Risk: 8%
The small risk comes mostly from the possibility of haze, residue, or an in-hand surface issue not fully visible in the photos. Based on what is shown here, however, I would still expect a straight Mint State grade.
11. Estimated Value
Estimated Value Range:
• Raw / uncertified equivalent: approximately $40–$60
• If certified MS63: approximately $55–$80
• If certified MS64: approximately $90–$140
Actual market value can vary depending on luster, originality, and how attractive the coin appears in hand.
12. Submission Recommendation
Recommendation: Worthy Mint State example
This looks like a legitimate Mint State 1942 Walking Liberty half dollar and a reasonable submission or collection coin if your goal is to build a solid certified set. My working opinion is MS63, with limited upside unless the coin has stronger luster and cleaner surfaces in hand than the photos reveal. If it looks brighter and more original outside the slab glare, there could be a modest chance at MS64, but MS63 is the most reasonable call from these images.
Yeah. You can't provide a numerical grade unless it's in a recognized TPG holder
And prohibition of that isn’t the same thing as labeling the coins “counterfeit”.
@BEBPE said:
“I no longer sell on eBay. They declared all my listings counterfeit…”
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@BEBPE said:
I mounted my listings in slabs that I purchased and provided a computer generated grading report.
here is a picture and the grading report
This is the item you will receive. It is not a stock photo.
ChatGTP Numismatic
Coin Grading Report
1. Coin Identification
• Coin: Walking Liberty Half Dollar
• Date: 1942
• Mint: Philadelphia
• Mint Mark: None visible
• Type: Walking Liberty Half Dollar
• Composition: 90% silver, 10% copper
• Strike Type: Business Strike
• Denomination: 50 Cents
2. Estimated Grade
Estimated Grade: MS62 to MS63
Best Single-Point Estimate: MS63
Based on the photos, this coin appears to be an uncirculated 1942 Walking Liberty half dollar with no clear wear on Liberty’s high points or the eagle’s major design elements. The coin shows enough remaining mint-state character to support a Mint State grade, but the surfaces appear somewhat subdued by the lighting, slab glare, and a light layer of haze or minor field chatter. My best estimate is MS63, which is in line with a lower-to-mid Mint State example.
3. Strike Assessment
The strike appears average to slightly above average for the issue. Liberty’s main gown lines remain visible, and the reverse eagle shows decent feather structure, though not razor sharp in every area. Some apparent softness may be photographic rather than actual weakness, especially on the reverse.
Strike Score: 7.5/10
4. Luster
There appears to be moderate mint luster remaining, though it is difficult to fully judge because the images are affected by strong pinkish lighting and slab reflection. The coin does not appear dull or circulated, but it also does not show the booming flash expected from a higher-end Mint State piece.
Luster Score: 7.0/10
5. Surface Preservation
The surfaces look generally solid for an uncirculated coin, but there appear to be scattered small contact marks, light abrasions, and some mild haze or spotting. The obverse fields and Liberty’s gown show minor disturbances, and the reverse seems to have a few small marks as well. Nothing jumps out as severe, but the surfaces do not appear especially clean for a gem-level coin.
Surface Preservation Score: 6.8/10
6. Eye Appeal
Eye appeal is pleasant but not premium. The coin has an attractive original Mint State look, but the photography limits its visual impact, and the luster seems somewhat muted. In hand, it may look a bit better than these images suggest, but from the photos alone this looks like a nice, honest MS63 type of coin rather than a standout.
Eye Appeal Score: 7.0/10
7. Positive Attributes
• Clearly appears uncirculated
• Attractive classic Walking Liberty design
• Decent strike for the issue
• Good remaining detail on both obverse and reverse
• Solid type-coin quality for a Mint State example
8. Detracting Factors
• Some scattered contact marks and light abrasions
• Luster appears somewhat muted in the photos
• Possible light haze or surface film
• Slab glare and pink lighting reduce clarity of the images
• Not enough apparent surface quality for a high-end Mint State grade
9. Straight Grade Probability
Probability of Straight Grade: 92%
Nothing in the photos suggests a details-grade problem. The coin appears original and market acceptable, with typical minor Mint State surface issues rather than anything severe.
10. Details Grade Risk
Details Grade Risk: 8%
The small risk comes mostly from the possibility of haze, residue, or an in-hand surface issue not fully visible in the photos. Based on what is shown here, however, I would still expect a straight Mint State grade.
11. Estimated Value
Estimated Value Range:
• Raw / uncertified equivalent: approximately $40–$60
• If certified MS63: approximately $55–$80
• If certified MS64: approximately $90–$140
Actual market value can vary depending on luster, originality, and how attractive the coin appears in hand.
12. Submission Recommendation
Recommendation: Worthy Mint State example
This looks like a legitimate Mint State 1942 Walking Liberty half dollar and a reasonable submission or collection coin if your goal is to build a solid certified set. My working opinion is MS63, with limited upside unless the coin has stronger luster and cleaner surfaces in hand than the photos reveal. If it looks brighter and more original outside the slab glare, there could be a modest chance at MS64, but MS63 is the most reasonable call from these images.
Yeah. You can't provide a numerical grade unless it's in a recognized TPG holder
And prohibition of that isn’t the same thing as labeling the coins “counterfeit”.
@BEBPE said:
“I no longer sell on eBay. They declared all my listings counterfeit…”
They might have labeled the slabs as such. Although that isn't the correct way to reference them.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
What is the meaningful difference between offering a raw coin in a stapled cardboard-and-plastic flip with a handwritten grade and offering that same coin in a more attractive protective holder with my assessment of its grade? My intention was to protect the coin and make it more presentable and appealing to buyers.
Apparently, eBay interpreted that presentation as a claim of independent certification. I did not represent the coin as graded or authenticated by PCGS, ICG, NGC, or any other grading service.
If you believed the description needed to state more explicitly that the grade was my own opinion, you could have requested that clarification. That is entirely different from declaring the coin counterfeit. A disagreement over how a coin is presented does not establish that the coin itself is counterfeit, and I strongly object to being treated as though I was attempting to deceive buyers.
@BEBPE said:
What is the meaningful difference between offering a raw coin in a stapled cardboard-and-plastic flip with a handwritten grade and offering that same coin in a more attractive protective holder with my assessment of its grade? My intention was to protect the coin and make it more presentable and appealing to buyers.
Apparently, eBay interpreted that presentation as a claim of independent certification. I did not represent the coin as graded or authenticated by PCGS, ICG, NGC, or any other grading service.
If you believed the description needed to state more explicitly that the grade was my own opinion, you could have requested that clarification. That is entirely different from declaring the coin counterfeit. A disagreement over how a coin is presented does not establish that the coin itself is counterfeit, and I strongly object to being treated as though I was attempting to deceive buyers.
You cannot put a numerical grade on a raw coin in a flip either.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
I would not be surprised if someone were to determine cumulative totals of counterfeits in the sub $100 price range well exceeded the evaluated >$750 priced coins sold on eBay.
Recent item approved by PCGS and window of time for review slightly more than 24 hours. Kinda nice having a set of eyes before arriving even if adds on a few days.
Yea, I tested both a raw Henning and one in the ICG educational holder; both were rejected through the authentication process, and I was immediately refunded my purchase price.
Comments
My coin was received yesterday by PCGS, and this morning I received an email from eBay saying, "Congrats! Your item was authenticated." It is pretty fast. I like it. I think the program is good for both the buyer and the seller. I don't understand why there are so many negative comments about the program. I guess that gives a good opportunity for people to post something.
My certified coin was received yesterday; pretty much 2 days coast to coast when I ship priority to PCGS. The hopefully happy customer should have it next week.
I purchased a Morgan on Friday 9/18, received by USPS on Sat 9/19 in NJ, went to Philadelphia 9/22, then Arizona 9/24. Where is the authenticator location? Basically, I'm at a week without it even being received by them, let alone when I'll see it...
I've had several authentications go smooth so far but had an interesting case today. I had two 2026 Mayflower compact quarters sold as a pair in one listing for well over $500, and individually each valued over $500. It was listed in the America The Beautiful (2010-Now) quarter category, which is where all 2026 quarters are listed because ebay hasn't bothered to adjust the title to reflect that the category is used for American Women and other post 2009 quarter programs. They stated that:
I guess they want this listed in the "Lots & Collections" category even though it is not wrong to put it where I put it. I'm not sure what I can do in the future to "ensure this doesn't happen again." Fortunately they are still sending it to the buyer. Seems like ebay should learn how to handle situations like this to ensure this doesn't happen again. I'm not sure that I need to do anything differently.
This is pretty confused. "ineligible for our Authenticity Guarantee" but the coin is still on the way to the buyer? I thought PCGS only to make sure the coin is not counterfeit.
They don't handle lots of multiple coins.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
I didn't have a choice.
I no longer sell on eBay. They declared all my listings counterfeit, and I take strong exception to that accusation. My coins were legitimate, and I resented like hell the implication that I was a liar and a cheat trying to deceive buyers. I take my honesty and reputation seriously, and I found their treatment deeply insulting.
Once I factored in shipping costs, fees, and the time involved, I was better off accepting a lower price from a local coin dealer. The economics alone made leaving worthwhile. Having my integrity called into question made the decision final.
They don't handle lots of multiple coins.> @ProofCollection said:
I know. I was just explaining to jt88 why the were ineligible.
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This is fascinating, given what the usual suggestion is about ebay and counterfeits. Do you have details? Do you know who reported your listings?
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I mounted my listings in slabs that I purchased and provided a computer generated grading report.
here is a picture and the grading report
This is the item you will receive. It is not a stock photo.
ChatGTP Numismatic
Coin Grading Report
1. Coin Identification
• Coin: Walking Liberty Half Dollar
• Date: 1942
• Mint: Philadelphia
• Mint Mark: None visible
• Type: Walking Liberty Half Dollar
• Composition: 90% silver, 10% copper
• Strike Type: Business Strike
• Denomination: 50 Cents
2. Estimated Grade
Estimated Grade: MS62 to MS63
Best Single-Point Estimate: MS63
Based on the photos, this coin appears to be an uncirculated 1942 Walking Liberty half dollar with no clear wear on Liberty’s high points or the eagle’s major design elements. The coin shows enough remaining mint-state character to support a Mint State grade, but the surfaces appear somewhat subdued by the lighting, slab glare, and a light layer of haze or minor field chatter. My best estimate is MS63, which is in line with a lower-to-mid Mint State example.
3. Strike Assessment
The strike appears average to slightly above average for the issue. Liberty’s main gown lines remain visible, and the reverse eagle shows decent feather structure, though not razor sharp in every area. Some apparent softness may be photographic rather than actual weakness, especially on the reverse.
Strike Score: 7.5/10
4. Luster
There appears to be moderate mint luster remaining, though it is difficult to fully judge because the images are affected by strong pinkish lighting and slab reflection. The coin does not appear dull or circulated, but it also does not show the booming flash expected from a higher-end Mint State piece.
Luster Score: 7.0/10
5. Surface Preservation
The surfaces look generally solid for an uncirculated coin, but there appear to be scattered small contact marks, light abrasions, and some mild haze or spotting. The obverse fields and Liberty’s gown show minor disturbances, and the reverse seems to have a few small marks as well. Nothing jumps out as severe, but the surfaces do not appear especially clean for a gem-level coin.
Surface Preservation Score: 6.8/10
6. Eye Appeal
Eye appeal is pleasant but not premium. The coin has an attractive original Mint State look, but the photography limits its visual impact, and the luster seems somewhat muted. In hand, it may look a bit better than these images suggest, but from the photos alone this looks like a nice, honest MS63 type of coin rather than a standout.
Eye Appeal Score: 7.0/10
7. Positive Attributes
• Clearly appears uncirculated
• Attractive classic Walking Liberty design
• Decent strike for the issue
• Good remaining detail on both obverse and reverse
• Solid type-coin quality for a Mint State example
8. Detracting Factors
• Some scattered contact marks and light abrasions
• Luster appears somewhat muted in the photos
• Possible light haze or surface film
• Slab glare and pink lighting reduce clarity of the images
• Not enough apparent surface quality for a high-end Mint State grade
9. Straight Grade Probability
Probability of Straight Grade: 92%
Nothing in the photos suggests a details-grade problem. The coin appears original and market acceptable, with typical minor Mint State surface issues rather than anything severe.
10. Details Grade Risk
Details Grade Risk: 8%
The small risk comes mostly from the possibility of haze, residue, or an in-hand surface issue not fully visible in the photos. Based on what is shown here, however, I would still expect a straight Mint State grade.
11. Estimated Value
Estimated Value Range:
• Raw / uncertified equivalent: approximately $40–$60
• If certified MS63: approximately $55–$80
• If certified MS64: approximately $90–$140
Actual market value can vary depending on luster, originality, and how attractive the coin appears in hand.
12. Submission Recommendation
Recommendation: Worthy Mint State example
This looks like a legitimate Mint State 1942 Walking Liberty half dollar and a reasonable submission or collection coin if your goal is to build a solid certified set. My working opinion is MS63, with limited upside unless the coin has stronger luster and cleaner surfaces in hand than the photos reveal. If it looks brighter and more original outside the slab glare, there could be a modest chance at MS64, but MS63 is the most reasonable call from these images.
Yeah. You can't provide a numerical grade unless it's in a recognized TPG holder
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And prohibition of that isn’t the same thing as labeling the coins “counterfeit”.
@BEBPE said:
“I no longer sell on eBay. They declared all my listings counterfeit…”
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
They might have labeled the slabs as such. Although that isn't the correct way to reference them.
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What is the meaningful difference between offering a raw coin in a stapled cardboard-and-plastic flip with a handwritten grade and offering that same coin in a more attractive protective holder with my assessment of its grade? My intention was to protect the coin and make it more presentable and appealing to buyers.
Apparently, eBay interpreted that presentation as a claim of independent certification. I did not represent the coin as graded or authenticated by PCGS, ICG, NGC, or any other grading service.
If you believed the description needed to state more explicitly that the grade was my own opinion, you could have requested that clarification. That is entirely different from declaring the coin counterfeit. A disagreement over how a coin is presented does not establish that the coin itself is counterfeit, and I strongly object to being treated as though I was attempting to deceive buyers.
You cannot put a numerical grade on a raw coin in a flip either.
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Can you put a numerical grade on a flip and then put a raw coin in it?
can you put a numerical grade in the description?
No. Sometimes, it helps to read the terms and conditions.
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Now where's the fun in that?
Are you suggesting that if you are selling coins on eBay, you should be familiar with their rules for selling coins on their platform?
What does the Authenticity Guarantee do with ICG certified counterfeits? The slab is authentic but the coin is fake and they tell you so ...
Ain't that the truth!
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There's a thread on a Henning nickel where the OP tested this very thing.
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I would not be surprised if someone were to determine cumulative totals of counterfeits in the sub $100 price range well exceeded the evaluated >$750 priced coins sold on eBay.
Recent item approved by PCGS and window of time for review slightly more than 24 hours. Kinda nice having a set of eyes before arriving even if adds on a few days.
The person on here who tested this out, got a refund and the ICG slabbed counterfeit (Henning Nickel) was rejected (sent back to the seller).
Yea, I tested both a raw Henning and one in the ICG educational holder; both were rejected through the authentication process, and I was immediately refunded my purchase price.