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Doubled80Doubled80 Posts: 7 ✭
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I have a nickel that looks to be printed on a penny planchette can someone help me with this

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    Doubled80Doubled80 Posts: 7 ✭

    I need help on identifying weather this is a nickel on a penny planchette or not

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    RedRocketRedRocket Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it well may be.
    Please weigh it for confirmation.
    Nice (potential) catch!

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    jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Totally real. Sure, you might as well weigh it if you can. A potential buyer might feel better with that extra validation. But there's really no question from your pictures that it's real.

    Excellent first post!

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,473 ✭✭✭✭✭

    photo of it between two pennies too?

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,473 ✭✭✭✭✭

    you might as well weigh it if you can

    if you get a weight, get it to 2 decimal places preferably, but at minimum one

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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could be a nickel filed down to diameter of a penny. How thick is the piece? Thick as a nickel or thin as a penny?

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    PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,856 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agree with above, please provide weight and some more pictures for comparison would be nice. Make a sandwich with another nickel, and a bronze cent, all pre 1980 if possible but especially the cent must be pre-82. Take a pic of side for thickness visual, and then all laid down for rough diameter comparison. Welcome to the forum, hope it turns out to be what it appears.

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,868 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll be the pessimist in the crowd, looks like a altered nickel
    Hope I'm wrong :/

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like it. The bifurcation of the lettering is a good sign. Shows that the collar was bigger than the planchet.

    Just need that weight to confirm it.

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    gonzergonzer Posts: 3,083 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    Looks like it. The bifurcation of the lettering is a good sign. Shows that the collar was bigger than the planchet.

    Just need that weight to confirm it.

    One look at 'America' is all I needed to agree with the above.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 41,379 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    Looks like it. The bifurcation of the lettering is a good sign. Shows that the collar was bigger than the planchet.

    Just need that weight to confirm it.

    And specific gravity? ;)

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Looks like it. The bifurcation of the lettering is a good sign. Shows that the collar was bigger than the planchet.

    Just need that weight to confirm it.

    And specific gravity? ;)

    It has to get proved out 🤥

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    seanqseanq Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks good to me. For some reason a lot of these are dated 1979-81.

    Sean Reynolds

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    SapyxSapyx Posts: 2,555 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As I posted in the thread about this coin over on another coin forum, I don't often comment on "error coins" posted on the forums, but when I do, I very often cite Occam's Razor as my rationale for condemning something as "not an error"... but I'm thinking this is an excellent application of Occam's Razor to prove a coin actually is an error instead.

    Scenario 1: the coin really is a nickel struck on a penny planchet.

    Scenario 2: the coin is a normal nickel, which someone has neatly trimmed or lathed to match the weight of a penny (the weight of this piece was given over on the other forum, as 3.05 grams), and then the coin has acquired environmental staining to make it appear coppery.

    Scenario 1 is clearly the simplest explanation in this instance, so is therefore the most probable.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,473 ✭✭✭✭✭

    now

    what's it worth?

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    2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fascinating to me that a newbie posts what appears to be a legitimate/worthy error coin and has real expert numismatists all in agreement and he ghosts the thread…

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    RedRocketRedRocket Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    now

    what's it worth?

    Even with the damage, a couple of hundred.

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    Doubled80Doubled80 Posts: 7 ✭

    I do apologize but if you must know my daughter just miscarried and I've been wrapped up with making sure she's ok. She's my number one and she will always come first. Now I am about to post the rest of the pics you have asked for now

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    Doubled80Doubled80 Posts: 7 ✭





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    Doubled80Doubled80 Posts: 7 ✭

    The only pic I have of the weight is on the other forum and it weighs 3.05 grams. I'd rather not try and do you a screenshot so I will have to get a new pic of the weight for you all soon as I get back to the house. I do apologize for the wait but as I stated before, my daughter is my number one.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,473 ✭✭✭✭✭

    you have some error coin experts saying it's genuine, and the weight and thickness confirms it

    put it in a safe place, but not so safe you can't find it again

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    3.05 grams is certainly close enough for a cent planchet.

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    DesertCoinDesertCoin Posts: 391 ✭✭✭

    Send it to PCGS or ANACS without further ado. That will tell for certain. The opinions here seem to be favorable.

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    MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 2,080 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is no question that it is a genuine off-metal error coin. Slabbing is not necessary for that purpose.

    If sent in, the coin will details grade due to the obverse test scratch. There is limited additional value from slabbing, but may make sense to due so if sending in some other coins for grading too.

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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    …… it will also come back as “ detailed”
    Due to the corrosion on the reverse, imo.

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    Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:

    you might as well weigh it if you can

    if you get a weight, get it to 2 decimal places preferably, but at minimum one

    THIS, always weigh your "error" candidates with a good 15.00 scale, and when in doubt specific gravity can be your friend.

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    now

    what's it worth?

    raw have been selling in the $200-300 range

    slabbed with higher scores more

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