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BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 11,400 ✭✭✭✭✭

While watching the Nuggets/Wolves game ending the other night,where Joker took offense at a late easy layup by the Wolves. After the game was in hand. This resulted in Joker getting into it with the Wolves squad.
Apparently one does not run up the score when the game is in hand. But what if the scorer needed a score to qualify for a contract bonus, a personal high score record, or even worse to cover the point spread? How about betting on a players single score total and player ceases to score for the benefit of the unwritten rule fearing opposition retribution?There's the rub. With the proliferation of sports betting in general, and prop betting in particular, how would bettors accept the "unwritten rule" when it costs them a winning wager.
Any thoughts?

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 33,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think if I'm a player I'm going to score anytime I can

    I. Know there are a ton of MLB "unwritten rules" and I'm not aware of a lot of them but I think they should be phased out for reasons you just mentioned

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 9,937 ✭✭✭✭✭

    unwritten rules are a microcosm of our society. forget what it is you're actually paid to do, you have to know when to set that aside and take the opposition's widdle feelings into consideration. i think not :D. if i was Jaden McDaniels, i'm taking that deuce as well. and if it shatters some fragile psyches on the other bench, i'd be even more glad i did it. if you don't want me to score, then prevent me from scoring. i'll do what i'm paid to do, and you do what you're paid to do. otherwise, stfu.

    here's the Inside the NBA crew discussing it. i'm team Shaq alllll the way

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz5Xf8sY7cY

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 11,400 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "You play to win the game"(and score as much as you can)😀

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  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Players should score every chance they get. It can have contract implications. You dont want them to score than dont let them

    @perkdog said:
    I think if I'm a player I'm going to score anytime I can

    I. Know there are a ton of MLB "unwritten rules" and I'm not aware of a lot of them but I think they should be phased out for reasons you just mentioned

    Most of the MLB ones other than if youre going to throw at someone dont throw at their head are dead. Some of the older players and the sports media try and keep them alive but the younger players dont give a flying f about them and want to have fun and make the game more exciting. The NCAA had to make rule chances cus the celebrations with props were getting so elaborate in the SEC and ACC baseball games with Thor hammers, backetball dunks, coats, crowns etc and the NCAA being a bunch of curmudgeons didnt want them having fun so now they have to do it in the dugout

    Fire AJ Preller

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 33,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Basebal21 said:
    Players should score every chance they get. It can have contract implications. You dont want them to score than dont let them

    @perkdog said:
    I think if I'm a player I'm going to score anytime I can

    I. Know there are a ton of MLB "unwritten rules" and I'm not aware of a lot of them but I think they should be phased out for reasons you just mentioned

    Most of the MLB ones other than if youre going to throw at someone dont throw at their head are dead. Some of the older players and the sports media try and keep them alive but the younger players dont give a flying f about them and want to have fun and make the game more exciting. The NCAA had to make rule chances cus the celebrations with props were getting so elaborate in the SEC and ACC baseball games with Thor hammers, backetball dunks, coats, crowns etc and the NCAA being a bunch of curmudgeons didnt want them having fun so now they have to do it in the dugout

    Throwing at someone's head is something that should be common sense where it's never ok

    But yes I think most of the MLB unwritten rules were from decades ago, now it's money and stat driven so if you can add to your resume you do it

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 11,400 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fans love offense.

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  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @Basebal21 said:
    Players should score every chance they get. It can have contract implications. You dont want them to score than dont let them

    @perkdog said:
    I think if I'm a player I'm going to score anytime I can

    I. Know there are a ton of MLB "unwritten rules" and I'm not aware of a lot of them but I think they should be phased out for reasons you just mentioned

    Most of the MLB ones other than if youre going to throw at someone dont throw at their head are dead. Some of the older players and the sports media try and keep them alive but the younger players dont give a flying f about them and want to have fun and make the game more exciting. The NCAA had to make rule chances cus the celebrations with props were getting so elaborate in the SEC and ACC baseball games with Thor hammers, backetball dunks, coats, crowns etc and the NCAA being a bunch of curmudgeons didnt want them having fun so now they have to do it in the dugout

    Throwing at someone's head is something that should be common sense where it's never ok

    But yes I think most of the MLB unwritten rules were from decades ago, now it's money and stat driven so if you can add to your resume you do it

    Ironically old timey games where when guys got their heads thrown at intentionally the most. Now theres enough guys that dont really know where the ball is going its usually accidental.

    The Latin leagues and players never really cared about a lot of those unwritten rules. The Japanese leagues and South Korean ones are the ones holding on to them the most, but even they are softening. Bauer doing his sword celebrations in Japan 20 years ago would have gotten him pulled from the game and likely suspended or kicked off the team but now they and the fans embrace it

    Fire AJ Preller

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is a reason for "unwritten" rules which is generally not to insult/embarrass the other team or players/coaches. Fans tend to relish things like insulting or embarrassing other players and coaches but fans don't have to endure that same thing in a game or risk legal injury during a game because of some prior "poor taste" play.

    As mentioned by @perkdog, MLB offers perhaps the best examples. I have always wondered why a hitter thinks he needs to show up the other team or the pitcher when he crushes an HR, but it happens all the time. It tended to happen less in the "good old days" when a pitcher could still brush a hitter back. With the puss-i-fi-cation of the sport a batter can now get up over the plate and there isn't much a pitcher can do. One of those unwritten rules taken away and replaced by one written down or at least exercised by the umpires.

    What makes me nuts and not really interested in sports anymore, at least not enough to watch or care about outcomes, is the fact that the athletes today are so superior in many ways(on average) then their predecessors but they all seem consumed with self-glory. And it starts when they are young., very young. Children imitate what they see and they start young by doing what their sports heroes do.

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 33,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:
    There is a reason for "unwritten" rules which is generally not to insult/embarrass the other team or players/coaches. Fans tend to relish things like insulting or embarrassing other players and coaches but fans don't have to endure that same thing in a game or risk legal injury during a game because of some prior "poor taste" play.

    As mentioned by @perkdog, MLB offers perhaps the best examples. I have always wondered why a hitter thinks he needs to show up the other team or the pitcher when he crushes an HR, but it happens all the time. It tended to happen less in the "good old days" when a pitcher could still brush a hitter back. With the puss-i-fi-cation of the sport a batter can now get up over the plate and there isn't much a pitcher can do. One of those unwritten rules taken away and replaced by one written down or at least exercised by the umpires.

    What makes me nuts and not really interested in sports anymore, at least not enough to watch or care about outcomes, is the fact that the athletes today are so superior in many ways(on average) then their predecessors but they all seem consumed with self-glory. And it starts when they are young., very young. Children imitate what they see and they start young by doing what their sports heroes do.

    Before it was the local
    Newspaper, then it went to ESPN highlights to now social media

    It has mostly to do with social media now I believe

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Talk about ridiculous imitation, here’s one.

    I had to stop golfing maybe 10 years ago because of my shoulders, but we used to laugh about the young players, guys in the 20-30 year range. They’d walk onto the green to putt and the show would start!!

    One guy would tend the flag and the first guy to putt would bend down, place a marker and pick up his ball. He would look the ball over for some imagined imperfection and then place it back and pick up the marker. Then he’d back up 10 feet and figure out the lie and shot followed by hunching over the ball and putting.

    These guys must have thought they were playing at Augusta but it was only the local Metro course!!

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 33,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:
    Talk about ridiculous imitation, here’s one.

    I had to stop golfing maybe 10 years ago because of my shoulders, but we used to laugh about the young players, guys in the 20-30 year range. They’d walk onto the green to putt and the show would start!!

    One guy would tend the flag and the first guy to putt would bend down, place a marker and pick up his ball. He would look the ball over for some imagined imperfection and then place it back and pick up the marker. Then he’d back up 10 feet and figure out the lie and shot followed by hunching over the ball and putting.

    These guys must have thought they were playing at Augusta but it was only the local Metro course!!

    So I guess I'm glad I have negative interest in golf

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :)

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 33,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    🙂

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