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Enduring Liberty 2026 Semiquincentennial Half Dollar Two-Roll Set

mbr33mbr33 Posts: 168 ✭✭✭

If anyone is into subscribing to the 2026 rolls, for some reason there are now 30,222 at ATS and the subscription button is bright red.

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  • mbr33mbr33 Posts: 168 ✭✭✭
    edited March 2, 2026 3:08PM

    Finally got a subscription myself for a change. LOl

  • OrlenaOrlena Posts: 389 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks I put a couple sets in for subscription.

  • mach19mach19 Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭
    edited March 2, 2026 3:28PM

    I placed an order for the $100.00 bag

    EDIT to add a while ago

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  • mbr33mbr33 Posts: 168 ✭✭✭

    @mach19 said:
    I placed an order for the $100.00 bag

    Nice! Saw they were available too all of the sudden after being on "remind me" Wonder why so many subs available after being listed for weeks?
    (I've had plenty of time to peruse the Mint site and the forums lately.....broken arm in an MVA)

  • mach19mach19 Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭

    @mbr33 said:

    @mach19 said:
    I placed an order for the $100.00 bag

    Nice! Saw they were available too all of the sudden after being on "remind me" Wonder why so many subs available after being listed for weeks?
    (I've had plenty of time to peruse the Mint site and the forums lately.....broken arm in an MVA)

    I'M sorry my friend .......... I hope you recover QUICKLY !!!

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 17,262 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thx! I signed up for a roll subscription.

  • Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 826 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks, I also put in a roll subscription.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 3,771 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mbr33 said:

    @mach19 said:
    I placed an order for the $100.00 bag

    Nice! Saw they were available too all of the sudden after being on "remind me" Wonder why so many subs available after being listed for weeks?
    (I've had plenty of time to peruse the Mint site and the forums lately.....broken arm in an MVA)

    No reason, other than they decided to release more for subscription. Meaning there will be fewer available for sale at release.

  • mbr33mbr33 Posts: 168 ✭✭✭

    No reason, other than they decided to release more for subscription. Meaning there will be fewer available for sale at release.

    i have only been using the Mint itself for purchases for a short time by comparison to some of the senior forum members. Has it occurred before that more than half the mintage has been put up for subscription at once like that after it having been up for a month or so already and been on "remind me" as it has been?

  • mbr33mbr33 Posts: 168 ✭✭✭

    >

    I'M sorry my friend .......... I hope you recover QUICKLY !!!

    Thanks! Hit by a "teXting and driving" fool.

  • mach19mach19 Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @mach19 said:
    I placed an order for the $100.00 bag

    Nice! Saw they were available too all of the sudden after being on "remind me" Wonder why so many subs available after being listed for weeks?
    (I've had plenty of time to peruse the Mint site and the forums lately.....broken arm in an MVA)

    No reason, other than they decided to release more for subscription. Meaning there will be fewer available for sale at release.

    Correct me if I'M wrong .... Why wouldn't they ?

    TIN SOLDIERS & NIXON COMING image
  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dang....the button is back to REMIND ME. That didn't last too long. I missed that window.

  • smuglrsmuglr Posts: 562 ✭✭✭✭

    @Onastone said:
    Dang....the button is back to REMIND ME. That didn't last too long. I missed that window.

    The initial page shows remind me, click on subscription at the upper right and you should be good. I just did three single subscriptions 5 minutes ago, and went back in after your post.

  • HATTRICKHATTRICK Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Last night Magic Mike said he went thru several hundred thousand half dollars to get the MS 67 ones he was selling. Probably returned the rejects to be resold. 🤭🤭🤭

    " If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
  • smuglrsmuglr Posts: 562 ✭✭✭✭

    @HATTRICK said:
    Last night Magic Mike said he went thru several hundred thousand half dollars to get the MS 67 ones he was selling. Probably returned the rejects to be resold. 🤭🤭🤭

    If I'm not mistaken that was the Bicentennial ones he was selling.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 17,262 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The subscription is still available.

    I noticed on my subscription page that the estimated price is $36.25 but on the product page the approximate cost is $60.00.

    Hmmm...

  • smuglrsmuglr Posts: 562 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2, 2026 4:29PM

    @JBK said:
    The subscription is still available.

    I noticed on my subscription page that the estimated price is $36.25 but on the product page the approximate cost is $60.00.

    Hmmm...

    Which page is that? I only see $60.00 on the product page and $0.00 on the subscription page and in the notes below it says $60.00.

  • smuglrsmuglr Posts: 562 ✭✭✭✭

    @mbr33 said:
    If anyone is into subscribing to the 2026 rolls, for some reason there are now 30,222 at ATS and the subscription button is bright red.

    Thank you for the tip on this. I have been checking for weeks trying to add subscriptions.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 3,771 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mach19 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @mach19 said:
    I placed an order for the $100.00 bag

    Nice! Saw they were available too all of the sudden after being on "remind me" Wonder why so many subs available after being listed for weeks?
    (I've had plenty of time to peruse the Mint site and the forums lately.....broken arm in an MVA)

    No reason, other than they decided to release more for subscription. Meaning there will be fewer available for sale at release.

    Correct me if I'M wrong .... Why wouldn't they ?

    Why wouldn't who what? Sell more via subscription versus at release? Because they want to have a Release Day, and actually have product to sell. So people don't whine when they sell out in 2 minutes. That's why.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 17,262 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @smuglr said:

    @JBK said:
    The subscription is still available.

    I noticed on my subscription page that the estimated price is $36.25 but on the product page the approximate cost is $60.00.

    Hmmm...

    Which page is that? I only see $60.00 on the product page and $0.00 on the subscription page and in the notes below it says $60.00.

    Under the "My Subscriptiins" summary page.

  • smuglrsmuglr Posts: 562 ✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:

    @smuglr said:

    @JBK said:
    The subscription is still available.

    I noticed on my subscription page that the estimated price is $36.25 but on the product page the approximate cost is $60.00.

    Hmmm...

    Which page is that? I only see $60.00 on the product page and $0.00 on the subscription page and in the notes below it says $60.00.

    Under the "My Subscriptiins" summary page.

    Got it. Hope that plays out to be true, but I'm guessing they will update the price when they switch to shipping.

  • HATTRICKHATTRICK Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @smuglr said:

    @HATTRICK said:
    Last night Magic Mike said he went thru several hundred thousand half dollars to get the MS 67 ones he was selling. Probably returned the rejects to be resold. 🤭🤭🤭

    If I'm not mistaken that was the Bicentennial ones he was selling.

    You are partially mistaken as he was selling both. However the story about his massive purchase and limited amount of MS 67s he was selling for 99.99 was the half dollars.

    " If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
  • HATTRICKHATTRICK Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @smuglr said:

    @JBK said:

    @smuglr said:

    @JBK said:
    The subscription is still available.

    I noticed on my subscription page that the estimated price is $36.25 but on the product page the approximate cost is $60.00.

    Hmmm...

    Which page is that? I only see $60.00 on the product page and $0.00 on the subscription page and in the notes below it says $60.00.

    Under the "My Subscriptiins" summary page.

    Got it. Hope that plays out to be true, but I'm guessing they will update the price when they switch to shipping.

    They will surely change the price.

    " If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭✭✭

    60,000 roll sets and 30,000 bags seems like an awful large amount to sell. Does anyone know how many rolls and bags were sold in 2025?

  • mbr33mbr33 Posts: 168 ✭✭✭

    26,199 P&D roll sets and 11,521 bags

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 3,771 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @smuglr said:

    @JBK said:

    @smuglr said:

    @JBK said:
    The subscription is still available.

    I noticed on my subscription page that the estimated price is $36.25 but on the product page the approximate cost is $60.00.

    Hmmm...

    Which page is that? I only see $60.00 on the product page and $0.00 on the subscription page and in the notes below it says $60.00.

    Under the "My Subscriptiins" summary page.

    Got it. Hope that plays out to be true, but I'm guessing they will update the price when they switch to shipping.

    Nope. This is not a "Kennedy Half-Dollar Two Roll Set."

    Different price. Different product number. Different enrollment.

    That is not this. Period.

    I know because I have both. The Kennedy is not going to ship this year, because it is not going to be made this year.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 3,771 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Manorcourtman said:
    60,000 roll sets and 30,000 bags seems like an awful large amount to sell. Does anyone know how many rolls and bags were sold in 2025?

    They are expecting a lot more demand because this is a one year only issue. They are probably correct.

  • smuglrsmuglr Posts: 562 ✭✭✭✭

    @NJCoin said:

    @smuglr said:

    @JBK said:

    @smuglr said:

    @JBK said:
    The subscription is still available.

    I noticed on my subscription page that the estimated price is $36.25 but on the product page the approximate cost is $60.00.

    Hmmm...

    Which page is that? I only see $60.00 on the product page and $0.00 on the subscription page and in the notes below it says $60.00.

    Under the "My Subscriptiins" summary page.

    Got it. Hope that plays out to be true, but I'm guessing they will update the price when they switch to shipping.

    Nope. This is not a "Kennedy Half-Dollar Two Roll Set."

    Different price. Different product number. Different enrollment.

    That is not this. Period.

    I know because I have both. The Kennedy is not going to ship this year, because it is not going to be made this year.

    Never said it was. I am as aware as you that this is not a Kennedy Half Dollar Two roll Set, as I have both subscriptions as well. If you read through the subscription details, you will see that this is a one year replacement and you can pause your Kennedy subscription, the Liberty item will be replacing the Kennedy item, and as shown by another member, that subscription still shows the old price, that will likely change, as I said, when the subscription flips to shipping. To be clear, you are not the only one who is well aware that the Kennedy half dollar is not going to be made this year, the other poster's question was concerning the fact that for that subscription, which the USM has said, would be filled with the Liberty this year still shows the old price.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 3,771 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2, 2026 11:13PM

    @smuglr said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @smuglr said:

    @JBK said:

    @smuglr said:

    @JBK said:
    The subscription is still available.

    I noticed on my subscription page that the estimated price is $36.25 but on the product page the approximate cost is $60.00.

    Hmmm...

    Which page is that? I only see $60.00 on the product page and $0.00 on the subscription page and in the notes below it says $60.00.

    Under the "My Subscriptiins" summary page.

    Got it. Hope that plays out to be true, but I'm guessing they will update the price when they switch to shipping.

    Nope. This is not a "Kennedy Half-Dollar Two Roll Set."

    Different price. Different product number. Different enrollment.

    That is not this. Period.

    I know because I have both. The Kennedy is not going to ship this year, because it is not going to be made this year.

    Never said it was. I am as aware as you that this is not a Kennedy Half Dollar Two roll Set, as I have both subscriptions as well. If you read through the subscription details, you will see that this is a one year replacement and you can pause your Kennedy subscription, the Liberty item will be replacing the Kennedy item, and as shown by another member, that subscription still shows the old price, that will likely change, as I said, when the subscription flips to shipping. To be clear, you are not the only one who is well aware that the Kennedy half dollar is not going to be made this year, the other poster's question was concerning the fact that for that subscription, which the USM has said, would be filled with the Liberty this year still shows the old price.

    Right. My point was that the Kennedy subscription is NOT going to be filled with the Liberty coin, and will NOT be repriced. At least not this year. If they reprice next year, when the new Kennedy replaces the old one, that will be a different matter entirely

    The Kennedy subscription is not going to be filled at all this year. The fact that you have a separate subscription for the Liberty coin, at the correct price, should be a clue. Where did the Mint say that Kennedy subscriptions would be filled with Liberties, when they are offering separate Liberty subscriptions?

    Edit -- I see what you are talking about now. Even though the product page has the correct description and price, when you go to your subscription page, it has the image of the Liberty coin, but the description and price of the Kennedy. And the same product number. So it's a glitch. And, if it isn't fixed, entirely possible that they will fill Kennedy subscriptions with Liberty coins. TBD. Just like the ship date on the subscription page.

  • OrlenaOrlena Posts: 389 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2, 2026 11:20PM

    I guess we will need to wait and see. I signed up for four sets under the semi q half dollar, - the description says Kennedy, but the picture on the subscription is of the 2026 liberty and fulfillment info is correct for this year, and the email confirmation shows the 2026 Liberty half.

    Little confusing but they have a few months to sort it out

  • Russell12Russell12 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here I sit 3:00 in the morning, Tuesday March 3rd. I put my subscription in the the Half dollar 2 roll set, then I went back to see how much it will be. $60 for a 2 roll set. Pretty expensive for the producer of the product to sell, so much for having a coin collector as the new mint director (Paul Hollis).

  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @smuglr said:

    @Onastone said:
    Dang....the button is back to REMIND ME. That didn't last too long. I missed that window.

    The initial page shows remind me, click on subscription at the upper right and you should be good. I just did three single subscriptions 5 minutes ago, and went back in after your post.

    Thank you @smuglr Got some...I'm thinking these will make cool gifts for fellow employees & friends...it's a one off Semiquincentennial coin! And I'm sure not everyone will even see one. I'll probably pop them into some capsules as I'd feel bad if each person ruined each one with fingerprints.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,290 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @NJCoin said:

    @smuglr said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @smuglr said:

    @JBK said:

    @smuglr said:

    @JBK said:
    The subscription is still available.

    I noticed on my subscription page that the estimated price is $36.25 but on the product page the approximate cost is $60.00.

    Hmmm...

    Which page is that? I only see $60.00 on the product page and $0.00 on the subscription page and in the notes below it says $60.00.

    Under the "My Subscriptiins" summary page.

    Got it. Hope that plays out to be true, but I'm guessing they will update the price when they switch to shipping.

    Nope. This is not a "Kennedy Half-Dollar Two Roll Set."

    Different price. Different product number. Different enrollment.

    That is not this. Period.

    I know because I have both. The Kennedy is not going to ship this year, because it is not going to be made this year.

    Never said it was. I am as aware as you that this is not a Kennedy Half Dollar Two roll Set, as I have both subscriptions as well. If you read through the subscription details, you will see that this is a one year replacement and you can pause your Kennedy subscription, the Liberty item will be replacing the Kennedy item, and as shown by another member, that subscription still shows the old price, that will likely change, as I said, when the subscription flips to shipping. To be clear, you are not the only one who is well aware that the Kennedy half dollar is not going to be made this year, the other poster's question was concerning the fact that for that subscription, which the USM has said, would be filled with the Liberty this year still shows the old price.

    Right. My point was that the Kennedy subscription is NOT going to be filled with the Liberty coin, and will NOT be repriced. At least not this year. If they reprice next year, when the new Kennedy replaces the old one, that will be a different matter entirely

    The Kennedy subscription is not going to be filled at all this year. The fact that you have a separate subscription for the Liberty coin, at the correct price, should be a clue. Where did the Mint say that Kennedy subscriptions would be filled with Liberties, when they are offering separate Liberty subscriptions?

    Edit -- I see what you are talking about now. Even though the product page has the correct description and price, when you go to your subscription page, it has the image of the Liberty coin, but the description and price of the Kennedy. And the same product number. So it's a glitch. And, if it isn't fixed, entirely possible that they will fill Kennedy subscriptions with Liberty coins. TBD. Just like the ship date on the subscription page.

    They are really having issues this year. Nothing is really working the way it's supposed to, including the waiting room which pops up randomly all day long.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,290 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Russell12 said:
    Here I sit 3:00 in the morning, Tuesday March 3rd. I put my subscription in the the Half dollar 2 roll set, then I went back to see how much it will be. $60 for a 2 roll set. Pretty expensive for the producer of the product to sell, so much for having a coin collector as the new mint director (Paul Hollis).

    $1.50 for a collectible coin is too expensive?

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 826 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Russell12 said:
    Here I sit 3:00 in the morning, Tuesday March 3rd. I put my subscription in the the Half dollar 2 roll set, then I went back to see how much it will be. $60 for a 2 roll set. Pretty expensive for the producer of the product to sell, so much for having a coin collector as the new mint director (Paul Hollis).

    Yup, welcome to the new mint. Yet my three two roll sets of the half dollars due 5.5.26 sold in seconds on EB @ $140 each in a presale that will help fund an extra mint and clad proof set, most were listed at an insane $299 a pair.

  • smuglrsmuglr Posts: 562 ✭✭✭✭

    @NJCoin said:

    @smuglr said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @smuglr said:

    @JBK said:

    @smuglr said:

    @JBK said:
    The subscription is still available.

    I noticed on my subscription page that the estimated price is $36.25 but on the product page the approximate cost is $60.00.

    Hmmm...

    Which page is that? I only see $60.00 on the product page and $0.00 on the subscription page and in the notes below it says $60.00.

    Under the "My Subscriptiins" summary page.

    Got it. Hope that plays out to be true, but I'm guessing they will update the price when they switch to shipping.

    Nope. This is not a "Kennedy Half-Dollar Two Roll Set."

    Different price. Different product number. Different enrollment.

    That is not this. Period.

    I know because I have both. The Kennedy is not going to ship this year, because it is not going to be made this year.

    Never said it was. I am as aware as you that this is not a Kennedy Half Dollar Two roll Set, as I have both subscriptions as well. If you read through the subscription details, you will see that this is a one year replacement and you can pause your Kennedy subscription, the Liberty item will be replacing the Kennedy item, and as shown by another member, that subscription still shows the old price, that will likely change, as I said, when the subscription flips to shipping. To be clear, you are not the only one who is well aware that the Kennedy half dollar is not going to be made this year, the other poster's question was concerning the fact that for that subscription, which the USM has said, would be filled with the Liberty this year still shows the old price.

    Right. My point was that the Kennedy subscription is NOT going to be filled with the Liberty coin, and will NOT be repriced. At least not this year. If they reprice next year, when the new Kennedy replaces the old one, that will be a different matter entirely

    The Kennedy subscription is not going to be filled at all this year. The fact that you have a separate subscription for the Liberty coin, at the correct price, should be a clue. Where did the Mint say that Kennedy subscriptions would be filled with Liberties, when they are offering separate Liberty subscriptions?

    Edit -- I see what you are talking about now. Even though the product page has the correct description and price, when you go to your subscription page, it has the image of the Liberty coin, but the description and price of the Kennedy. And the same product number. So it's a glitch. And, if it isn't fixed, entirely possible that they will fill Kennedy subscriptions with Liberty coins. TBD. Just like the ship date on the subscription page.

    If you read the information under subscription details, it is not only entirely possble, but indeed the plan, not a glitch. There have though been a number of strange glitches recently as @jmlanzaf has mentioned; waiting room, hhl, etc.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 3,771 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 3, 2026 8:28AM

    @Russell12 said:
    Here I sit 3:00 in the morning, Tuesday March 3rd. I put my subscription in the the Half dollar 2 roll set, then I went back to see how much it will be. $60 for a 2 roll set. Pretty expensive for the producer of the product to sell, so much for having a coin collector as the new mint director (Paul Hollis).

    Coin dealer. Not coin collector.

    Totally consistent for a dealer to want to take more for themself, and leave less for their customer. Trust me, the Mint under this leadership is going to be much more focused on the Big Boys than ever before.

  • If you have an active subscription to product "NBA", you will receive a two roll set of enduring liberty halves.

    As it's set up now, several subscriptions this year will result in you receiving the 2026 version of that particular coin/set if you have active subscriptions. Some will be different from last year more than just the date.

  • CapgunCapgun Posts: 888 ✭✭✭

    Have a number of subscriptions but unable to checkout this one. Hit review order & nothingness. Even tried another card and the same.......

  • ADGADG Posts: 470 ✭✭✭

    @Capgun said:
    Have a number of subscriptions but unable to checkout this one. Hit review order & nothingness. Even tried another card and the same.......

    Have same problem with 3 web browsers. All blockers turned off.

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  • GiveMeProofGiveMeProof Posts: 685 ✭✭✭✭

    @Capgun said:
    Have a number of subscriptions but unable to checkout this one. Hit review order & nothingness. Even tried another card and the same.......

    Had the same problem yesterday. Just kept hitting the "back" arrow until it finally worked.

  • BurnieBurnie Posts: 458 ✭✭✭
    edited March 5, 2026 8:40AM

    Yes, I ran into the same issue. Strange. Hitting the back button worked.

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  • Glen2022Glen2022 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭✭

    A few days ago was able to get 2- 2roll sets. still seems expensive.

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,426 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Glen2022 said:
    A few days ago was able to get 2- 2roll sets. still seems expensive.

    $1.50/coin for two roll set

    $.90/coin for 200 coin bag

  • HATTRICKHATTRICK Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 7, 2026 6:12PM

    Magic Mike selling his Mayflower quarters that did not grade in sets of P&D rolls for
    $59.95 plus shipping if under $200 purchase. On CSNmint

    " If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
  • smuglrsmuglr Posts: 562 ✭✭✭✭

    Subscriptions available for these.

  • EggerEgger Posts: 440 ✭✭

    They have changed the HHL to 2 now

  • mbr33mbr33 Posts: 168 ✭✭✭

    @Egger said:
    They have changed the HHL to 2 now

    After 24 hours you’ll be able to get all you want. They had about 59,000 ATS the last I looked. Those won’t go as fast as the dime or the quarters…. But I could be surprised. We will know soon.

  • smuglrsmuglr Posts: 562 ✭✭✭✭

    It will be interesting to see. I believe these will be highly popular. There are more of these available than the quarters or dimes, I don't recall the quarters exactly, but the dime was 12,000 if I remember correctly, but the margin is a bit lower, just 3x face vs 4x with the dime, which was also a late addition. To me, the biggest difference is these are available by subscription, which quarters and dimes were not, that should slow the feeding frenzy. How will the USM handle those? Will they honor the higher number than the new hhl, as they have with some other issues? How many 'extra' subscriptions will people cancel leading up to release? The quarters are a set of five for me, maybe most people, where this, like the dime is a one off. The dime has a great design, as I believe the half does, and for gifting I like the half dollar size as a commemorative of the semiquincentennial. I just added another two, for now.

  • smuglrsmuglr Posts: 562 ✭✭✭✭

    Also, other than the dual date, is this the new dime going forward? We know the half dollar is a one year design, with JFK returning next year, with reverse designs for the next four years I don't find desirable, as also with the new quarter designs to come.

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