Guess the grade WLH
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This coin was graded on 1/16/1985 by ANACS. I have the card with the image.
What would you guess the grade of this coin to be by today's standards. I will reveal the card at some point.
I will tell you that this coin is amazing in hand with some of the nicest luster I have ever seen. It has no heavy hits just a couple of luster breaks from mild contact.
I know it looks hazy on the right side obverse but it is not hazy. You'll have to take my word for it.
The obverse of the coin was difficult to take shots of because of reflection so I took several.
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The top image, and the other less so, looks heavily altered. You might have done nothing to it, but that is how it appears.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Yep. Looks AU details, severely polished.
Au'ish details
So Tom those are the best images I can get with my cell phone camera.
The coin itself has not been altered in any way and is mint state.
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I think he was talking about the images not the coin.
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Yes, I was talking about the images, but the difficulty in interpreting them makes any real guess (for me) nearly impossible.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Sorry about that. I will just end it now and post the card that shows the grade. In my opinion its at least a 66 but could grade higher. I know these come really nice so its nothing special but its nice to have a prime type coin.
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I'm going with the camera quality.
Based on the original images, I would’ve said a highly polished AU.
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The highly polished look happens when you have that kind of overcast, natural light. Otherwise I would have guessed 66, but I'm not good at grading walkers.
Images look overexposed and color removed.
What are you using to take pictures? Are you processing them somehow?
I would have said whizzed based on those.
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I was gonna guess that it was graded 65 in 1985 so I got that part right I would give it a 66 now maybe a plus if it looks that good in hand.
Based on what? Pure speculation?
Certainly you are not assigning your grade based on the photos.
Based on what I see in the photos.
The shadow he’s saying looks haze in the right field is actually cartwheel luster. Proven by the next photo where the lighting is different and it is light in the same area and just based on the natural curvature of the shadow.
So at that point mint state is affirmed now comes the deduction from hits and strength of strike. I shouldn’t have to explain that part.
Sometimes you have to decide if you want a coin or not based on crappy images rather than simply eye appeal.
Of course I am doing all this looking with my cell phone lol so of course it’s gonna look better to me.
On my flip phone it appears polished XF
:'(
Lmao!
Sure, I’m optimistic. I do happen to have a gambling addiction when it comes to buying coins. Other factors involved in my decision was that he mentioned it was graded, the dimples or luster is more prominent in the reverse photos.
And the fact that people tend to throw you on the guess the grade games.
So if it looks bad, it’s probably good and it looks good. It’s definitely bad. Look at my GTG. I made those little Lincoln’s look precious 63, 62 lol.
My estimation would have been 65 based on my understanding that no coin ever got a grade higher than 65 in the early days of third party grading…
Perhaps it would be interesting to send it to PCGS or NGC just to see what their opinion is but it would be a shame to lose the current holder
Your understanding is incorrect. Granted, it was obviously much more difficult to get grades above 65 in the early days of grading, but it far more frequent than never.
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I took some images with my Canon. Better than my cell phone.
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Though the coin wasn’t wiped down and is technically problem-free, it still looks washed out likely due to over-dipping.
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My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
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Assuming it straight grades - Would say 63-64