@Tom147 said:
After seeing the increase I'm backing off my subscriptions to the minimum needed for my Dansco albums.
My question is why did the clad proof and uncirculated sets take a huge jump with the silver ?
Yeah. Those are the only ones that surprised me. But they may have extra coins this year die to the SemiQ. And, frankly, based on all the Lincoln cent speculation with the 2025 sets, I think this price may be reasonable. I don't know that there is any other place to get the Lincoln
Even so, that seems crazy. In the past, they were the only place to get burnished coins. But the prices were never nearly this out of line.
$33.25 to $124.50? For clad? Feels like a mistake to me. If not, given how many they will make, even if it IS to only place to get a Lincoln cent, how much could a single zinc coin be worth when they are making 190K of them? The same number as last year at $33.25 each!
Seems VERY out of line when they will be selling a proof ASE with a mintage of 60K at $175.
As I said, that one surprised me the most. BUT, look at the prices for the 2025 sets. They'd no reason for the Mint to sell them for, say, $50 if they are going to sell for $200 in the secondary market.
Yeah. But, if they are going to squeeze the juice out of everything, they are going to totally kill demand. Are they going to also give refunds when secondary market prices later collapse?
If not, they should price based on production costs and a margin. Not the secondary market. Unless they really, really, really just want to become the Franklin Mint, and destroy the desire of many to collect NCLT.
I have no problem with them making a buck, and using our hobby to put a tiny dent in the federal deficit, but $125 for a couple of bucks worth of clad change is taking it to an unjustifiable extreme. The prices of the 2025 should come way down when the 2026s hit the market, and people realize 2025 wasn't actually the last Lincoln cent.
If they want to make more money, they should make more of them at a reasonable price, rather than trying to turn annual uncirculated and proof sets into poor man's FH gold privies and Omega cents by "limiting" the mintage to only a couple of hundred thousand, and then charging stupid premiums for them.
Because it's going to ultimately backfire when people pay, not $30 or $40 for them, but $100+, and then find that they are sitting on nice pocket change in a few years. With zero precious metal upside when the apocalypse comes.
Except for the Lincoln & possibly the half dollar , One should be able to find these coins at bank's and your local convenience store @ FACE value , correct ?
@Tom147 said:
After seeing the increase I'm backing off my subscriptions to the minimum needed for my Dansco albums.
My question is why did the clad proof and uncirculated sets take a huge jump with the silver ?
Yeah. Those are the only ones that surprised me. But they may have extra coins this year die to the SemiQ. And, frankly, based on all the Lincoln cent speculation with the 2025 sets, I think this price may be reasonable. I don't know that there is any other place to get the Lincoln
Even so, that seems crazy. In the past, they were the only place to get burnished coins. But the prices were never nearly this out of line.
$33.25 to $124.50? For clad? Feels like a mistake to me. If not, given how many they will make, even if it IS to only place to get a Lincoln cent, how much could a single zinc coin be worth when they are making 190K of them? The same number as last year at $33.25 each!
Seems VERY out of line when they will be selling a proof ASE with a mintage of 60K at $175.
As I said, that one surprised me the most. BUT, look at the prices for the 2025 sets. They'd no reason for the Mint to sell them for, say, $50 if they are going to sell for $200 in the secondary market.
Yeah. But, if they are going to squeeze the juice out of everything, they are going to totally kill demand. Are they going to also give refunds when secondary market prices later collapse?
If not, they should price based on production costs and a margin. Not the secondary market. Unless they really, really, really just want to become the Franklin Mint, and destroy the desire of many to collect NCLT.
I have no problem with them making a buck, and using our hobby to put a tiny dent in the federal deficit, but $125 for a couple of bucks worth of clad change is taking it to an unjustifiable extreme. The prices of the 2025 should come way down when the 2026s hit the market, and people realize 2025 wasn't actually the last Lincoln cent.
If they want to make more money, they should make more of them at a reasonable price, rather than trying to turn annual uncirculated and proof sets into poor man's FH gold privies and Omega cents by "limiting" the mintage to only a couple of hundred thousand, and then charging stupid premiums for them.
Because it's going to ultimately backfire when people pay, not $30 or $40 for them, but $100+, and then find that they are sitting on nice pocket change in a few years. With zero precious metal upside when the apocalypse comes.
Except for the Lincoln & possibly the half dollar , One should be able to find these coins at bank's and your local convenience store @ FACE value , correct ?
Higher grade coins almost always come from mint sets
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Which is why you also don't see any coins for sale at the new prices. Since they are now up on the Mint website, we all now know what's coming.
Look for a notice in the Federal Register any day now, and then look for whatever they have stock in to be available for sale soon thereafter, but not before.
Pardon my lack of knowledge on the subject.................
What is the purpose of putting the Mint's pricing increases into the Federal Register?
Mandated by law?
The Mint Website and the federal Register are both government run, so why all the fuss?
Federal agencies, such as the US Mint, are subject to notice requirements before they do certain things, such as impose price increases.
Why else do you think they ever publish the changes? Why else would the Federal Register even exist?
And, most importantly in this case, now that they have decided on the prices and put them on the website, why do you think they are not selling product, right now, if there was no requirement that they first publish notice in the Federal Register?
Why all the fuss, and why the requirement in the first place, for something like this? That I do not know.
But it's something they have to do in lots of areas, like changing rules around securities trading, admission fees for national parks, and, apparently selling prices for numismatic product. It's literally why they went to the precious metal pricing grid, so they would not have to constantly pull product before changing prices when they would want to change prices constantly in response to moves in gold and platinum.
Edit -- I see that they are now once again available for purchase on the website, so look for the notice in the Federal Register, likely with a publication date of Friday, given that Monday is a federal holiday.
@Tom147 said:
After seeing the increase I'm backing off my subscriptions to the minimum needed for my Dansco albums.
My question is why did the clad proof and uncirculated sets take a huge jump with the silver ?
Yeah. Those are the only ones that surprised me. But they may have extra coins this year die to the SemiQ. And, frankly, based on all the Lincoln cent speculation with the 2025 sets, I think this price may be reasonable. I don't know that there is any other place to get the Lincoln
Even so, that seems crazy. In the past, they were the only place to get burnished coins. But the prices were never nearly this out of line.
$33.25 to $124.50? For clad? Feels like a mistake to me. If not, given how many they will make, even if it IS to only place to get a Lincoln cent, how much could a single zinc coin be worth when they are making 190K of them? The same number as last year at $33.25 each!
Seems VERY out of line when they will be selling a proof ASE with a mintage of 60K at $175.
As I said, that one surprised me the most. BUT, look at the prices for the 2025 sets. They'd no reason for the Mint to sell them for, say, $50 if they are going to sell for $200 in the secondary market.
Yeah. But, if they are going to squeeze the juice out of everything, they are going to totally kill demand. Are they going to also give refunds when secondary market prices later collapse?
If not, they should price based on production costs and a margin. Not the secondary market. Unless they really, really, really just want to become the Franklin Mint, and destroy the desire of many to collect NCLT.
I have no problem with them making a buck, and using our hobby to put a tiny dent in the federal deficit, but $125 for a couple of bucks worth of clad change is taking it to an unjustifiable extreme. The prices of the 2025 should come way down when the 2026s hit the market, and people realize 2025 wasn't actually the last Lincoln cent.
If they want to make more money, they should make more of them at a reasonable price, rather than trying to turn annual uncirculated and proof sets into poor man's FH gold privies and Omega cents by "limiting" the mintage to only a couple of hundred thousand, and then charging stupid premiums for them.
Because it's going to ultimately backfire when people pay, not $30 or $40 for them, but $100+, and then find that they are sitting on nice pocket change in a few years. With zero precious metal upside when the apocalypse comes.
Except for the Lincoln & possibly the half dollar , One should be able to find these coins at bank's and your local convenience store @ FACE value , correct ?
Correct. The attraction is solely to get them in better condition than is possible when they are manhandled on the way to your local convenience store. Because, at least until this year, you could even buy half dollars in rolls from the Mint at far lower prices, but without the special handling.
@Tom147 said:
After seeing the increase I'm backing off my subscriptions to the minimum needed for my Dansco albums.
My question is why did the clad proof and uncirculated sets take a huge jump with the silver ?
Yeah. Those are the only ones that surprised me. But they may have extra coins this year die to the SemiQ. And, frankly, based on all the Lincoln cent speculation with the 2025 sets, I think this price may be reasonable. I don't know that there is any other place to get the Lincoln
.
Maybe. Maybe not. But the pricing has nothing to do with that.
You can now buy the 2021 set on the website for the low, low price of $124.50. It contains a whopping 14 coins, and nothing you cannot get elsewhere.
So $124.50 is just the new price for Mint uncirculated sets, regardless of how many or how few coins they contain, or what is or is not available elsewhere.
VERY unreasonable. Even if the 2026 version has a bunch of one year only clad coins, and the only zinc 2026 cents, other than the proofs.
Not sure why people would even get excited about 190K cents that don't circulate. After all, that's a pretty large mintage for a low value zinc coin that doesn't circulate. I wouldn't pay $5 each for them raw, let alone $50.
@Tom147 said:
After seeing the increase I'm backing off my subscriptions to the minimum needed for my Dansco albums.
My question is why did the clad proof and uncirculated sets take a huge jump with the silver ?
Yeah. Those are the only ones that surprised me. But they may have extra coins this year die to the SemiQ. And, frankly, based on all the Lincoln cent speculation with the 2025 sets, I think this price may be reasonable. I don't know that there is any other place to get the Lincoln
.
Maybe. Maybe not. But the pricing has nothing to do with that.
You can now buy the 2021 set on the website for the low, low price of $124.50. It contains a whopping 14 coins, and nothing you cannot get elsewhere.
So $124.50 is just the new price for Mint uncirculated sets, regardless of how many or how few coins they contain, or what is or is not available elsewhere.
VERY unreasonable. Even if the 2026 version has a bunch of one year only clad coins, and the only zinc 2026 cents, other than the proofs.
Not sure why people would even get excited about 190K cents that don't circulate. After all, that's a pretty large mintage for a low value zinc coin that doesn't circulate. I wouldn't pay $5 each for them raw, let alone $50.
I mostly agree. But look how excited they got over 500 million+ 2025 cents
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@Tom147 said:
After seeing the increase I'm backing off my subscriptions to the minimum needed for my Dansco albums.
My question is why did the clad proof and uncirculated sets take a huge jump with the silver ?
Yeah. Those are the only ones that surprised me. But they may have extra coins this year die to the SemiQ. And, frankly, based on all the Lincoln cent speculation with the 2025 sets, I think this price may be reasonable. I don't know that there is any other place to get the Lincoln
.
Maybe. Maybe not. But the pricing has nothing to do with that.
You can now buy the 2021 set on the website for the low, low price of $124.50. It contains a whopping 14 coins, and nothing you cannot get elsewhere.
So $124.50 is just the new price for Mint uncirculated sets, regardless of how many or how few coins they contain, or what is or is not available elsewhere.
VERY unreasonable. Even if the 2026 version has a bunch of one year only clad coins, and the only zinc 2026 cents, other than the proofs.
Not sure why people would even get excited about 190K cents that don't circulate. After all, that's a pretty large mintage for a low value zinc coin that doesn't circulate. I wouldn't pay $5 each for them raw, let alone $50.
I mostly agree. But look how excited they got over 500 million+ 2025 cents
@NJCoin said:
True. But how much are they paying for them?
I sold a 2025 S proof cent (mintage 300k) for $230 in a flip. I sold a clad 2025 proof set for $280, the silver proof sets going for 600-700 on eBay. I saw the mint Uncirculated sets selling close to $200. I but 2 sets each of silver, clad, and unc. Put one set in my danscos, keep the other set. I sold the other sets this year,
@Tom147 said:
After seeing the increase I'm backing off my subscriptions to the minimum needed for my Dansco albums.
My question is why did the clad proof and uncirculated sets take a huge jump with the silver ?
Yeah. Those are the only ones that surprised me. But they may have extra coins this year die to the SemiQ. And, frankly, based on all the Lincoln cent speculation with the 2025 sets, I think this price may be reasonable. I don't know that there is any other place to get the Lincoln
.
Maybe. Maybe not. But the pricing has nothing to do with that.
You can now buy the 2021 set on the website for the low, low price of $124.50. It contains a whopping 14 coins, and nothing you cannot get elsewhere.
So $124.50 is just the new price for Mint uncirculated sets, regardless of how many or how few coins they contain, or what is or is not available elsewhere.
VERY unreasonable. Even if the 2026 version has a bunch of one year only clad coins, and the only zinc 2026 cents, other than the proofs.
Not sure why people would even get excited about 190K cents that don't circulate. After all, that's a pretty large mintage for a low value zinc coin that doesn't circulate. I wouldn't pay $5 each for them raw, let alone $50.
I mostly agree. But look how excited they got over 500 million+ 2025 cents
True. But how much are they paying for them?
Not sure which "them" you are referring to. 2025 Mint sets are selling for $150 on ebay. The circulating Lincolns are selling for $20 per roll. So, without a circulating version available and with the one year type coins, I don't think the price is do crazy for 2026. In 2027, different calculation.
They're is no reason why the Mint should sell a set for $50 that is $150 in the secondary market.
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@NJCoin said:
True. But how much are they paying for them?
I sold a 2025 S proof cent (mintage 300k) for $230 in a flip. I sold a clad 2025 proof set for $280, the silver proof sets going for 600-700 on eBay. I saw the mint Uncirculated sets selling close to $200. I but 2 sets each of silver, clad, and unc. Put one set in my danscos, keep the other set. I sold the other sets this year,
Sounds great, but I was asking how much people were paying for one of the 500+ million circulation cents. People got excited about the 2025 uncirculated and proof sets because they seemingly thought they'd be the last to include the cent.
Highly unlikely the prices you got will sustain, given that the cent will continue to be included in the sets going forward. If I'm wrong, and people continue to be willing to pay over $100 for base metal sets manufactured in the hundreds of thousands, good for them. I just don't see the value. Either in buying them from you, or directly from the Mint.
@HalfDime said:
The mint has the silver products available now to purchase without any notice in the federal register of the price increase.
Right. I'm quite sure that notice has been filed, but you just cannot see it yet. If not, there is no reason for anything to ever be published in the Federal Register, or for it to even exist. The fact that you don't see a filed notice online during a federal holiday weekend does not mean one was not submitted.
@Tom147 said:
After seeing the increase I'm backing off my subscriptions to the minimum needed for my Dansco albums.
My question is why did the clad proof and uncirculated sets take a huge jump with the silver ?
Yeah. Those are the only ones that surprised me. But they may have extra coins this year die to the SemiQ. And, frankly, based on all the Lincoln cent speculation with the 2025 sets, I think this price may be reasonable. I don't know that there is any other place to get the Lincoln
.
Maybe. Maybe not. But the pricing has nothing to do with that.
You can now buy the 2021 set on the website for the low, low price of $124.50. It contains a whopping 14 coins, and nothing you cannot get elsewhere.
So $124.50 is just the new price for Mint uncirculated sets, regardless of how many or how few coins they contain, or what is or is not available elsewhere.
VERY unreasonable. Even if the 2026 version has a bunch of one year only clad coins, and the only zinc 2026 cents, other than the proofs.
Not sure why people would even get excited about 190K cents that don't circulate. After all, that's a pretty large mintage for a low value zinc coin that doesn't circulate. I wouldn't pay $5 each for them raw, let alone $50.
I mostly agree. But look how excited they got over 500 million+ 2025 cents
True. But how much are they paying for them?
Not sure which "them" you are referring to. 2025 Mint sets are selling for $150 on ebay. The circulating Lincolns are selling for $20 per roll. So, without a circulating version available and with the one year type coins, I don't think the price is do crazy for 2026. In 2027, different calculation.
They're is no reason why the Mint should sell a set for $50 that is $150 in the secondary market.
I gave you the reasons why. If the Mint wants to become HSN, The Coin Vault, or the Franklin Mint, that's certainly their prerogative. I'm just saying that they will totally kill the market going forward if they are going to be offering the same value at release that those other entities offer and offered their customers.
The "them" I was talking about was the 500+ million circulating cents. 40 cents each in quantity certainly represents great value. Those folks should do very well holding them, given how special the last billion coins will turn out to be as they discolor in their rolls. I hope you managed to sock away several cases for your grandchildren.
@cheezhed said:
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Parabolic up move in Gold , Silver ending .It will be confirmed with a Silver close under $81 & Gold under $4475
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@Tom147 said:
After seeing the increase I'm backing off my subscriptions to the minimum needed for my Dansco albums.
My question is why did the clad proof and uncirculated sets take a huge jump with the silver ?
Yeah. Those are the only ones that surprised me. But they may have extra coins this year die to the SemiQ. And, frankly, based on all the Lincoln cent speculation with the 2025 sets, I think this price may be reasonable. I don't know that there is any other place to get the Lincoln
.
Maybe. Maybe not. But the pricing has nothing to do with that.
You can now buy the 2021 set on the website for the low, low price of $124.50. It contains a whopping 14 coins, and nothing you cannot get elsewhere.
So $124.50 is just the new price for Mint uncirculated sets, regardless of how many or how few coins they contain, or what is or is not available elsewhere.
VERY unreasonable. Even if the 2026 version has a bunch of one year only clad coins, and the only zinc 2026 cents, other than the proofs.
Not sure why people would even get excited about 190K cents that don't circulate. After all, that's a pretty large mintage for a low value zinc coin that doesn't circulate. I wouldn't pay $5 each for them raw, let alone $50.
I mostly agree. But look how excited they got over 500 million+ 2025 cents
True. But how much are they paying for them?
Not sure which "them" you are referring to. 2025 Mint sets are selling for $150 on ebay. The circulating Lincolns are selling for $20 per roll. So, without a circulating version available and with the one year type coins, I don't think the price is do crazy for 2026. In 2027, different calculation.
They're is no reason why the Mint should sell a set for $50 that is $150 in the secondary market.
I gave you the reasons why. If the Mint wants to become HSN, The Coin Vault, or the Franklin Mint, that's certainly their prerogative. I'm just saying that they will totally kill the market going forward if they are going to be offering the same value at release that those other entities offer and offered their customers.
The "them" I was talking about was the 500+ million circulating cents. 40 cents each in quantity certainly represents great value. Those folks should do very well holding them, given how special the last billion coins will turn out to be as they discolor in their rolls. I hope you managed to sock away several cases for your grandchildren.
Straw man argument.
You're ignoring the fact that the MARKET VALUE for the 2025 set was in excess of 125. If the market value is $150 and the Mint is selling it for $125, that is not remotely predatory.
The Mint should NOT be selling below market value.
[In the case of this one set. I'm not making a blanket statement for all Mint offerings.]
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@Tom147 said:
After seeing the increase I'm backing off my subscriptions to the minimum needed for my Dansco albums.
My question is why did the clad proof and uncirculated sets take a huge jump with the silver ?
Yeah. Those are the only ones that surprised me. But they may have extra coins this year die to the SemiQ. And, frankly, based on all the Lincoln cent speculation with the 2025 sets, I think this price may be reasonable. I don't know that there is any other place to get the Lincoln
.
Maybe. Maybe not. But the pricing has nothing to do with that.
You can now buy the 2021 set on the website for the low, low price of $124.50. It contains a whopping 14 coins, and nothing you cannot get elsewhere.
So $124.50 is just the new price for Mint uncirculated sets, regardless of how many or how few coins they contain, or what is or is not available elsewhere.
VERY unreasonable. Even if the 2026 version has a bunch of one year only clad coins, and the only zinc 2026 cents, other than the proofs.
Not sure why people would even get excited about 190K cents that don't circulate. After all, that's a pretty large mintage for a low value zinc coin that doesn't circulate. I wouldn't pay $5 each for them raw, let alone $50.
I mostly agree. But look how excited they got over 500 million+ 2025 cents
True. But how much are they paying for them?
Not sure which "them" you are referring to. 2025 Mint sets are selling for $150 on ebay. The circulating Lincolns are selling for $20 per roll. So, without a circulating version available and with the one year type coins, I don't think the price is do crazy for 2026. In 2027, different calculation.
They're is no reason why the Mint should sell a set for $50 that is $150 in the secondary market.
I gave you the reasons why. If the Mint wants to become HSN, The Coin Vault, or the Franklin Mint, that's certainly their prerogative. I'm just saying that they will totally kill the market going forward if they are going to be offering the same value at release that those other entities offer and offered their customers.
The "them" I was talking about was the 500+ million circulating cents. 40 cents each in quantity certainly represents great value. Those folks should do very well holding them, given how special the last billion coins will turn out to be as they discolor in their rolls. I hope you managed to sock away several cases for your grandchildren.
Straw man argument.
You're ignoring the fact that the MARKET VALUE for the 2025 set was in excess of 125. If the market value is $150 and the Mint is selling it for $125, that is not remotely predatory.
The Mint should NOT be selling before market value.
[In the case of this one set. I'm not making a blanket statement for all Mint offerings.]
I'm sorry, but it's not a straw man at all. If the Mint wants to become HSN, that's fine. Because HSN also runs clearance sales when product doesn't sell.
If the Mint wants to go to variable pricing, selling the 2021 set at face value, and the 2025 at $200, that's also fine. But it's not what they are doing, and what they are doing IS predatory. They are just being pigs, quadrupling prices based on a market anomaly that will sort itself out. And, they will lose a generation of future collectors in the process.
JMHO, but not a straw man. There is absolutely no justification for a federal agency to artificially restrict supply, not on something special like an Omega cent, but on something common, like an uncirculated set, and then jack up the price.
Just watch, they are going to absolutely kill demand, and then not bring prices back down in response. Because 200K base metal coins, including cents unavailable elsewhere, do not justify $124. I'd much rather have a 60K coin with an ounce of silver and a special finish and handling for $175.
Now that the cent doesn't circulate, it's just a zinc token. Anyone who thinks they are worth around $50 each because the Mint is only going to make 200K of them per year, plus whatever goes in proof sets, is more than welcome to them. Given that they will all be perfectly preserved, and none of them will ever circulate, I seriously doubt they ever be worth anything, given how many will be made and how they will be distributed. So, yeah, shame on the Mint for creating the "rarity" and then taking advantage of people. Just like home shopping, but without the abnormally high marketing costs.
I have no skin in the game. I liked 'em at $25. Less at $33. At $100+ I'm out. I don't need them to lead a happy, productive life, so all I'm doing is saving $100 by not throwing 3 in my closet going forward. I'm just commenting on what I think Mr. Coin Vault is going to do to the hobby, pricing annual coin sets at outrageous margins.
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Except for the Lincoln & possibly the half dollar , One should be able to find these coins at bank's and your local convenience store @ FACE value , correct ?
Maybe we’ll see more variety of privately packaged sets like in ‘82 and ‘83.
Higher grade coins almost always come from mint sets
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Federal agencies, such as the US Mint, are subject to notice requirements before they do certain things, such as impose price increases.
Why else do you think they ever publish the changes? Why else would the Federal Register even exist?
And, most importantly in this case, now that they have decided on the prices and put them on the website, why do you think they are not selling product, right now, if there was no requirement that they first publish notice in the Federal Register?
Why all the fuss, and why the requirement in the first place, for something like this? That I do not know.
But it's something they have to do in lots of areas, like changing rules around securities trading, admission fees for national parks, and, apparently selling prices for numismatic product. It's literally why they went to the precious metal pricing grid, so they would not have to constantly pull product before changing prices when they would want to change prices constantly in response to moves in gold and platinum.
Edit -- I see that they are now once again available for purchase on the website, so look for the notice in the Federal Register, likely with a publication date of Friday, given that Monday is a federal holiday.
Correct. The attraction is solely to get them in better condition than is possible when they are manhandled on the way to your local convenience store. Because, at least until this year, you could even buy half dollars in rolls from the Mint at far lower prices, but without the special handling.
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Maybe. Maybe not. But the pricing has nothing to do with that.
You can now buy the 2021 set on the website for the low, low price of $124.50. It contains a whopping 14 coins, and nothing you cannot get elsewhere.
So $124.50 is just the new price for Mint uncirculated sets, regardless of how many or how few coins they contain, or what is or is not available elsewhere.
VERY unreasonable. Even if the 2026 version has a bunch of one year only clad coins, and the only zinc 2026 cents, other than the proofs.
Not sure why people would even get excited about 190K cents that don't circulate. After all, that's a pretty large mintage for a low value zinc coin that doesn't circulate. I wouldn't pay $5 each for them raw, let alone $50.
All silver coins can "add to bag" now.
The question is who want's to pay them prices ?
Does the mint still publish the monthly sales report these days?
Weekly
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I mostly agree. But look how excited they got over 500 million+ 2025 cents
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communication to the public before an action is undertaken
True. But how much are they paying for them?
I sold a 2025 S proof cent (mintage 300k) for $230 in a flip. I sold a clad 2025 proof set for $280, the silver proof sets going for 600-700 on eBay. I saw the mint Uncirculated sets selling close to $200. I but 2 sets each of silver, clad, and unc. Put one set in my danscos, keep the other set. I sold the other sets this year,
The mint has the silver products available now to purchase without any notice in the federal register of the price increase.
Not sure which "them" you are referring to. 2025 Mint sets are selling for $150 on ebay. The circulating Lincolns are selling for $20 per roll. So, without a circulating version available and with the one year type coins, I don't think the price is do crazy for 2026. In 2027, different calculation.
They're is no reason why the Mint should sell a set for $50 that is $150 in the secondary market.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
Sounds great, but I was asking how much people were paying for one of the 500+ million circulation cents. People got excited about the 2025 uncirculated and proof sets because they seemingly thought they'd be the last to include the cent.
Highly unlikely the prices you got will sustain, given that the cent will continue to be included in the sets going forward. If I'm wrong, and people continue to be willing to pay over $100 for base metal sets manufactured in the hundreds of thousands, good for them. I just don't see the value. Either in buying them from you, or directly from the Mint.
Right. I'm quite sure that notice has been filed, but you just cannot see it yet. If not, there is no reason for anything to ever be published in the Federal Register, or for it to even exist. The fact that you don't see a filed notice online during a federal holiday weekend does not mean one was not submitted.
I gave you the reasons why. If the Mint wants to become HSN, The Coin Vault, or the Franklin Mint, that's certainly their prerogative. I'm just saying that they will totally kill the market going forward if they are going to be offering the same value at release that those other entities offer and offered their customers.
The "them" I was talking about was the 500+ million circulating cents. 40 cents each in quantity certainly represents great value. Those folks should do very well holding them, given how special the last billion coins will turn out to be as they discolor in their rolls. I hope you managed to sock away several cases for your grandchildren.
Parabolic up move in Gold , Silver ending .It will be confirmed with a Silver close under $81 & Gold under $4475
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Straw man argument.
You're ignoring the fact that the MARKET VALUE for the 2025 set was in excess of 125. If the market value is $150 and the Mint is selling it for $125, that is not remotely predatory.
The Mint should NOT be selling below market value.
[In the case of this one set. I'm not making a blanket statement for all Mint offerings.]
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I'm sorry, but it's not a straw man at all. If the Mint wants to become HSN, that's fine. Because HSN also runs clearance sales when product doesn't sell.
If the Mint wants to go to variable pricing, selling the 2021 set at face value, and the 2025 at $200, that's also fine. But it's not what they are doing, and what they are doing IS predatory. They are just being pigs, quadrupling prices based on a market anomaly that will sort itself out. And, they will lose a generation of future collectors in the process.
JMHO, but not a straw man. There is absolutely no justification for a federal agency to artificially restrict supply, not on something special like an Omega cent, but on something common, like an uncirculated set, and then jack up the price.
Just watch, they are going to absolutely kill demand, and then not bring prices back down in response. Because 200K base metal coins, including cents unavailable elsewhere, do not justify $124. I'd much rather have a 60K coin with an ounce of silver and a special finish and handling for $175.
Now that the cent doesn't circulate, it's just a zinc token. Anyone who thinks they are worth around $50 each because the Mint is only going to make 200K of them per year, plus whatever goes in proof sets, is more than welcome to them. Given that they will all be perfectly preserved, and none of them will ever circulate, I seriously doubt they ever be worth anything, given how many will be made and how they will be distributed. So, yeah, shame on the Mint for creating the "rarity" and then taking advantage of people. Just like home shopping, but without the abnormally high marketing costs.
I have no skin in the game. I liked 'em at $25. Less at $33. At $100+ I'm out. I don't need them to lead a happy, productive life, so all I'm doing is saving $100 by not throwing 3 in my closet going forward. I'm just commenting on what I think Mr. Coin Vault is going to do to the hobby, pricing annual coin sets at outrageous margins.