poll....jordan 86 fleer rc psa 8 or vince carter auto numbered to 15
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which one would you rather have?
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What if they disagree with you like 3 people have already? Would you get angry with them and curse them out? Or, would you just ignore them?
What you say? Under 12?
I think alot of people voted for Jordan because they are looking at who the player is and not the rarity of the card. Even though a Jordan fleer RC is a key basketball card to own, there are still a ton of them around. Just imagine if there were only 3500 of them...I prefer the rare card.
Vincecarder- It's not about rare it's about the player and vince carter is not even half the player jordan ever was. His sp keeps going down in value and until he actually does something it will keep going down in value just like the rest of his cards no matter what they are numbered too.
Go look at vince carters stats compared to jordans first years in the league. Jordan was averaging 32 ppg 8 rebs 8 assists and shooting over 52% and a career 80%+ ft shooter. Vince carter has yet to do any of this and he is first option on a worthless team. Kobe has better stats than vince carter in ever catogory other than 3pointshooting and he plays with a monster. Put kobe on the raptors and he would average way more than a measley 24.7ppg
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As for your statement "It's not about rare it's about the player and vince carter is not even half the player jordan ever was. His sp keeps going down in value and until he actually does something it will keep going down in value just like the rest of his cards no matter what they are numbered too"
I believe Carter is more than half the player Jordan was. Nobody exploded on the scene as loud as Vince Carter did. He turned an expansion team into a real playoff threat very quickly. As for his SP going down in value, it's because people have graded and graded and graded the same issue until it get's a GEM MINT grade. Just go look at the population reports. There are only 3500 of the card issued and if you total all the cards graded it passes that amount. And I'm betting that all 3500 have not been pulled. Carter had a injury plagued season and will rebound very well next year because he has something to prove. Oh and if you think other players cards haven't gone down.....buddy, go take a look at some of the Jordan cards man. A PSA 10 use to hit $25,000 with ease, now you would be lucky to get $10,000. I would much rather take a smaller loss on a Carter RC (who has potential to become one of the best) to a guy who has done it all and has nothing else left to prove ala Jordan.
Out of the newer issue cards, only the cards with low serial numbers or something that makes them rare ie refractor etc, are going to be worth anything. Vintage cards will keep their value because of their condition (people put the cards in their bike spokes) while all the new cards never even get handled that much (right in a toploader for grading) I remember having tons of Jordan RC's and I unloaded them for good profit. As for Carter, you may think his SP has gone down, but please try and find a Spectrum RC (#ed to 25) or a Fleer Brilliants 24kt gold #ed24)
The last Spectrum Carter sold for $9000K....why is that you ask me? Cause it is rare and people know what potential VC has. I don't have to convince you to buy a Carter card, you can say he is wack and overated but I would take a rare VC card any day of the week.
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Vince carder- Would jordan have won a title without his great bulls team or without pippen? He never did did he? ANSWER? DID HE? WILL HE EVER? ANswer!
Didn't kobe miss a game in the finals vs the pacers in game 3 vince carder? DIDN'T THE LAKERS LOSE VINCE CARDER WITHOUT KOBE IN THE FINALS THAT GAME? Didn't kobe return the next game and win the game for the lakers in overtime with shaq fouled out mr vince carder? How old is vince anyways? How old is kobe? Who has more potential? Who does the hobby love?
Bye bye I just like to be a pain ...........
p.s I hope he gets hit by a card too
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In Jordan's prime, he could probably have lead any team to the finals. It did take him a few years to win remember, he didn't just come into the NBA and win championships left and right, he did lose for awhile. Having one of the top 50 players like Pippen did help alot, that's why he is one of the top 50 players.
But Jordan was the MVP of those championships as Shaq was the MVP in the Lakers championships. So Shaq=Jordan and Kobe=Pippen in a sense. Who get's more respect...the MVP. I always liked Shaq in Orlando and probably would cheer for him if it wasn't for Kobe. I just don't like the guy. I'd love to see Kobe lead a team to the finals without a player like Shaq. Will see in a few years when Shaq hangs up the jersey.
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Yeah you can't be finals mvp vince carder when your told to take 19 shots per game in the finals and only average 26 ppg, 6 rebs and 5 assists shooting over 50%.
Let me ask you this....sub in Vince Carter instead of Kobe Bryant on the Lakers. Now your telling me the Lakers wouldn't win the championship? I think Shaq creates enough holes for a guy like Kobe to score. Don't get me wrong, Kobe is a great player but without Shaq on the team I don't see him leading the Lakers to the championship. I think you would see Carter putting up huge numbers if he had a guy like Shaq opening the floor for him. Remember, Carter was dropping 25 ppg on one leg last season and that was with triple teams coming at him. I'm just waiting for next season when Carter comes out 100% healthy...should be real interesting to watch.
Oh and what is that pic you have on your posts that your asking me about? It's so d@mn blurry I can't even make anyone out.
Shaq doesn't open the lane for anybody he clogs the lane you moron. Kobe and horry saved the lakers from portland this year, kobe saved the lakers from the spurs while shaq was avg 22ppg vs duncan, horry saved us from the kings, IT'S about time shaq played his best series vs A TOUGH GUY TODD MAC. A real legend right there.
I'm not taking anything away from shaq, but both of them take there own greatness away for rings.
Which is what it's all about.Nobody in there right mind should think kobe can;t average 24 points on his own team. Are you that retarded?
I'm done with vc fans....they just bitter he turned into harold miner!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wouldn't be surprised if you bought vince carters sp for 3,000$ 2 years ago and now your just sh1tting your pants to see how low it is. How many games in a row did the raptors win last year without vince craptor to make the playoffs?
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