The Trifecta, CN Counterfeit Coin, Slab and Website !
burfle23
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As if the Chinese counterfeit coins in fake PCGS slabs isn’t bad enough, now there appears to be a fake Chinese PCGS website to verify them…
A friend alerted me to the following listing on the Bay this past week:
The listing included these interesting other images:
So, I started with the “PCGS” slab and some quick checks. Using my on-line barcode scanner I checked the front barcode:
Like many similar bad slabs, the barcode was gibberish and would not scan. Next, I went to the PCGS website to check the noted cert number:
And another bad sign, that cert # “was not found”. So, my next step was to try to read the reverse label QR code. And just a note, many of the previous counterfeits we have documented similar to this one had a QR code that read the cert # correctly but noted the genuine PCGS CN site. A previous example read like this:
And then this one:
Different result than expected- I do NOT recommend readers going to the site shown, but if you did this is what comes up:
WOW, now we have something apparently new to be concerned about with these…
I did notify my contacts at PCGS for a heads-up on this latest development!
Best, Jack.
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Crazy scary
Mr_Spud
Yikes! No bueno... but a little reality check... if someone seriously thinks they're getting a PCGS MS62 Trade Dollar for $400 obo, they're in for a letdown and a lot of "tuition"... I think the scary thing is if they increased the price of the fake offering, they might get more people thinking it's legit. Yikes!!
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Buyer beware ☹️😟
No 'T' on the label to boot.
What is the paren around the date on the slab?
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.
Yeah, the parentheses around the date, the font, lack of "Trade", a cert number that doesn't check out... there's a Lot wrong here but the draw of getting a "rip" is like moths to a flame for some...
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Yep, a lot, but especially the fake web site IMHO...
Absolutely! It makes me wonder 1- how many more of these things are "out there", and 2- who is hosting the F#$%!@G website!
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i don't know what i takes, but the feds do seize domains
Hopefully PCGS can/ will do something about it; seems like it is in their best interest!
Not sure if @PCGSMod is watching.
Website is down; hopefully PCGS got it killed for good...
love it
great job
I did find this interesting:
considering what was being sold, it isn't that surprising. however i am surprised it wasn't registered anonymously
YIkes! They keep taking it to new levels. At some point, they will really dial it in... Caveat Emptor for sure!
CAC | PCGS | NGC
2nd example found today- 1873-CC Trade. Obv label/ barcode similar to the 1st. Rev QR code scans to the counterfeit PCGS site which is still down today...
thanks for doing this
Coin Week article published today:
https://coinweek.com/fun-with-fakes-the-trifecta-chinese-counterfeit-coins-slabs-and-website
Thank you for all that you do Jack.
US Coin and Yankees Baseball Card Collector
did the lawyers approve of "sellers.. china or hong kong"?
That's a nice hit, congrats
In the "be cautious of" statement?
ok