1957 Wheat Repunched Date (RPD), Double Die (DDO) error or other?
jimbaker74
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I am looking through my wheats and found this 1957 with interesting date doubling. Is it RPM or something else? Also looks like a filled die in the "B" of LIBERTY, but it's actually raised above the lettering, like the die broke and "chipped" at the break.
I think it's cool regardless, but I'd like more experienced opinions. Thanks
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If you are serious about learning, you'll need to pull your own weight. You may start by fixing your incorrect use of terminology.
Don't mind the likes of @IkesT
In order to get multiple, fast responses, try not to ask questions. Instead, confidently state you have a rarity of great value. Droves of senior citizens with reams of info will arrive shortly. NEVER fails!
He says he's been around awhile.
define what a RPM is
Yeah, I was excited and distracted. RPM is obviously not what I meant. RPD for Repunched Date is what I meant. I'm sure it's impossible to decipher my mistake from my pics.
Sincerely, I am pretty excited to find something like this in my pennies, but I suspect hubbing or something else as the likely cause. But that why asked for comments on my coin, as opposed to my description, which clearlyay be wrong even with the corrected terminology.
Can I get an opinion on the coin?
Looks like machine doubling. The filled "B" in LIBERTY is rather common and it appears the "9" in the date was about to end up looking the same.
That would also be incorrect; "repunched date" is not a term that could be applied to your coin (and not just because it is machine doubling
). If you are interested in learning why, you may research that topic and report back here with your findings.
That last bit is excellent advice and I hope the OP follows up. As a hint, start off by looking at a list of all known repunched dates on Lincoln cents, and explain what you can learn from that.
There are a lot of very knowledgeable people on this board, many of whom are very generous with their time. But we also get a lot of new posters who can't be bothered with, well, anything.
Show that you want to learn, and I predict that you will get lots of help.
Yes, you are correct, this is a chipped die, which yields a filled B when the die strikes the planchet.
This is called a "BIE" die break, and is common in Lincoln cents from 1956-1958.
BIE because it occurs usually at the B and E and between them, sometimes forming an I there.
https://cuds-on-coins.com/lincoln-cent-bies/
I found several when I was a kid and saved them in my Whitman folder.
I have looked at a lot of doubling - and I'm just not good at recognizing the distinction. Repunching should look different, I understand that since it should not result in narrow looking designs. But I had not really seen machine doubling like this. Hence the reason I made the post, to learn. I did look at NGCs list of varieties before posting, but discovery coins happen, and so does learning.
Like the die chip in the "B" I would not have thought to be the same as the "BIE" die breaks / chips as it looks nothing like that to me. But if it's considered the same, I get it. And I see people still collect them for the "fun" of it, as will I in this case. It is a fun find, and now I understand it better.
Thanks for the feedback and advice. I do appreciate it.
Respectfully I would say that based on that comment, you didn't take Ike's advice and actually learn where you're going wrong in your understanding.