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1970 Penny, Double headed Obverse With Blowup Pictures

7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited December 12, 2025 3:13PM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

Hi all. I. bought this coin from a UK auction about 2 years ago, and is somewhat interesting I hope to others, I also have [somewhere] a similar and certified 1964 two obverse penny and neither are blockages.
What is additionally of interest is that the 1970 date is proof only and therefore presumable a bit harder to fake.

Well here are pictures of the coin:


Weight: 9.225 gms. This is slightly low but even though outside the usual tolerance is a bit higher than some that were measured as low as 9.09 gms.

Here are some blowup pictures of the edges on both sided of the coin as one of the methods is to hollow out one side, mill another coin's obverse bit and then glue/solder or otherwise attach the latter inside the former. This leaves a seam around the edge or just inside the rim. I did not take pictures of the circumference but from both sides took blowup pictures of the inside of the rim and outside the circle of dots (not denticles):




The third picture has an arc line inside the edge but this looks a bit too fine for a seam perhaps.

These are not exhaustive and will try to get an x-ray next week just to see. Whatcha think?

Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
Well, just Love coins, period.

Comments

  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting. But then you often have interesting moderns.

    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

  • GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to tell anything from the screen shots as they are too pixilated but
    if one side was milled out, it would be the top one. There is inconsistent
    spacing between the beads and the rims. At 10 o’clock, the beads are flat
    at the top and touching the rims. On the bottom one, the beads are round
    and away from the rim. Let us know the results of your test.

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, I will, Interestingly bead application to dies is often rather poor in many instances. I was trying to take pictures off the scope but looks pretty good. The x-ray guy should be working Tuesday so will prevail on him.

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 4,189 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @7Jaguars said:
    Hi all. I. bought this coin from a UK auction about 2 years ago, and is somewhat interesting I hope to others, I also have [somewhere] a similar and certified 1964 two obverse penny and neither are blockages.

    You are correct; they are not blockages.

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭✭✭

    LOL, brockages & got spell-checked.

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 16, 2025 4:36PM

    Hi all, here are some pictures from x-ray but maybe a little hard to see with NO sign of alteration near rim or elsewhere, so that looks pretty good and negative for the usual "hollow-out":: Sorry about the blowup pixellation in the views.




    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
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