1960 Proof Franklin Half Dollar - CAM Designation
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I don't think I am tripping, but maybe you will say I am. This proof looks as if it meets the CAM designation. Which one, I am unsure. With the mirrors, I can read text from across the room. But what do you think? For context, it came back PR67. Please excuse the hairlines as they are on the holder, this was my mistake from wiping. I didn't opt for a TrueView on this one.
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The lettering on "UNITED" doesn't look frosted enough.
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Resubmit…likely best to crack it out …certainly looks Cam to me
Mirrors don’t really matter. Just the frost. There’s lack of frost in a few areas and I think they’re pretty strict on the Franklins. Still a nice coin.
Based on the photos - cameo all day. Mirrors matter and frost matters.
I am surprised at the 67 grade given all the spots and whatever is going on by the U in UNITED.
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Nice coin
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CAM all day long, shot DCAM from those images.
Looks CAM, but on a 1960 is it worth the time and money for resubmission?
You can polish out those holder scratches easily.
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I agree on the cameo, not a deep cameo. Then again I'm no professional grader. Although making a determination based on an image, I believe the slightly softer effect of the reverese may be why it straight graded. But I'm liking it alot!
Crack it out and resubmit. Risky but it my be worth it. It's the only way to tell for sure.
Keep us informed.
Nice looking coin.
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It would be unnecessarily risky to crack the coin out for a new submission.
It looks Cameo, but the added value from that designation is probably marginal, when considering grading fees.
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Just to add to what I've said above
This is an interesting case... The coin definitely looks cameo, but not designated, however, the coin also has some unappealing spots on the obverse and a large spot on the reverse, so numerically I think it is over-graded by a point.
IMO this coin should be graded PR66CAM, which has a negligible value difference compared to PR67 no CAM.
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A previous owner saw same thing you see.
What are you missing that the grader saw?
I am neurotic enough to save it, and find out as filler in a future submission.
Let it marinate.
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I could recount my own experiences collecting 1950-1970 Proof and SMS coinage, but................................. I will not.
Instead I post a photo of a 1960 Proof Franklin I submitted for grading in 2023 (it graded PF67, no CAM).
And I post a photo of another 1960 Proof Franklin I submitted for grading in 2023 (it graded PF67CAM).
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That might damage the PCGS slab if you do that.
True, but the intent for this one was to build out a set of CAMEO Franklins.
With other submissions, I wonder does this happen. Not frosty enough for CAMEO for me, but we'll give you a grade bump in lieu of the CAM designation.
Agreed. The curiosity factor will make me want to save it for the future. If the value difference was high enough, I'd probably be trying to find out much sooner.
Funny thing is, your threads let me know this happens more often.
Impossible to ascertain based on those two photos, but based on those the frost appears light and uneven in several places both obverse and reverse
That might make for a horror scene somewhere 🫣
Its the bib down by the date. Its always the bib.