Ebay feedback question.
When did ebay start leaving automatic + feedback when a seller's item is deivered and buyer does not leave feedback?
Jim

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That's the first I've seen of it. I know they like to add more words than I leave. (One day I'll close it)
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Wow, that is pretty bold and assuming of the system. What difference does a couple of no feedback transactions make to eBay? eBay get's their fees, they shouldn't be making potentially false statements about transactions on my behalf. Personally, It's very rare that I leave non-positive feedback. But there are those times that the purchase was not overly satisfactory from my view for what ever reason. The transaction was not great but not a big enough deal to contact the seller or ding someone's feedback over. So I just let it slide and don't leave feedback. This may now change how I end up handling those situations.
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It's not shown via default, you'd have to toggle view automated feedback; however the score shown includes the automated feedback.
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@Batman23 said:
Wow, that is pretty bold and assuming of the system. What difference does a couple of no feedback transactions make to eBay? eBay get's their fees, they shouldn't be making potentially false statements about transactions on my behalf. Personally, It's very rare that I leave non-positive feedback. But there are those times that the purchase was not overly satisfactory from my view for what ever reason. The transaction was not great but not a big enough deal to contact the seller or ding someone's feedback over. So I just let it slide and don't leave feedback. This may now change how I end up handling those situations.If you read the thread above, if you leave feedback it replaces the automatic feedback.
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How do you leave feedback, when it's already been left. That's how I found out when I couldn't leave feedback and this flashed up.
Jim
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Wow, eBay really cooking the feedback system. At the end no one will trust eBay feedback.
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Does that mean the buyer can't file and return an item in the 6 month window for no good reason?
I prefer when I get honest feedback from buyers

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@Batman23 said:
Wow, that is pretty bold and assuming of the system. What difference does a couple of no feedback transactions make to eBay? eBay get's their fees, they shouldn't be making potentially false statements about transactions on my behalf. Personally, It's very rare that I leave non-positive feedback. But there are those times that the purchase was not overly satisfactory from my view for what ever reason. The transaction was not great but not a big enough deal to contact the seller or ding someone's feedback over. So I just let it slide and don't leave feedback. This may now change how I end up handling those situations.Seller metrics and overall reputation are based on feedback, and if a number of buyers don’t leave feedback, the denominator is lower so each feedback that is left counts for more. Lots of buyers don’t leave feedback, and I’d venture a bet that most of those are for transactions that were fine. It’s the bad transactions where buyers are very likely to leave feedback. As a result, those non-positives carry extra weight when the seller has no control. eBay has put in a fix.
If there’s a transaction where you don’t think an issue is big enough to contact or ding the seller, then leave a positive or let eBay do it for you. That’s the whole point. A seller can’t address a problem they’re not aware of, and unless something is egregious where it’s obvious the seller is malicious and it wasn’t a mistake (perhaps the seller only lists Chinese counterfeits), then it’s not fair to go and ding them without giving them a chance to make it right. If the problem is so inconsequential that you can just let it slide, you won’t possibly convince me it deserves a neutral or negative solely because otherwise eBay is going to leave a generic positive.
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@jesbroken said:
When did ebay start leaving automatic + feedback when a seller's item is delivered and buyer does not leave feedback?
Jim.
Jim, thanks for posting. That's news to me.But I think you're only half right. That is, there are two scenarios:
-- Seller leaves feedback for Buyer. I believe this is NOT automatic. If you want it automated, you have to do a setup:
https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/leaving-feedback-buyers/automatic-feedback-settings?id=4101&msockid=2f983e8fccd2623628e42a38cd40639a-- Buyer leaves feedback for Seller. Jim, I think this is the scenario you're talking about.
"eBay automated feedback is automatically added to the seller’s account when a transaction is successfully completed."
https://www.ebay.com/help/buying/leaving-feedback-sellers/leaving-feedback-sellers?id=4007What-Hasn't-Changed: You can still manually leave feedback for any particular transaction.
But I have one gripe: "As a seller, you can only leave positive feedback for buyers."
https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/leaving-feedback-buyers/leaving-feedback-buyers?id=4078Successful BST transactions with forum members thebigeng, SPalladino, Zoidmeister, jacrispies, coin22lover, coinsarefun, jwitten, CommemKing.
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@airplanenut said:
@Batman23 said:
Wow, that is pretty bold and assuming of the system. What difference does a couple of no feedback transactions make to eBay? eBay get's their fees, they shouldn't be making potentially false statements about transactions on my behalf. Personally, It's very rare that I leave non-positive feedback. But there are those times that the purchase was not overly satisfactory from my view for what ever reason. The transaction was not great but not a big enough deal to contact the seller or ding someone's feedback over. So I just let it slide and don't leave feedback. This may now change how I end up handling those situations.Seller metrics and overall reputation are based on feedback, and if a number of buyers don’t leave feedback, the denominator is lower so each feedback that is left counts for more. Lots of buyers don’t leave feedback, and I’d venture a bet that most of those are for transactions that were fine. It’s the bad transactions where buyers are very likely to leave feedback. As a result, those non-positives carry extra weight when the seller has no control. eBay has put in a fix.
If there’s a transaction where you don’t think an issue is big enough to contact or ding the seller, then leave a positive or let eBay do it for you. That’s the whole point. A seller can’t address a problem they’re not aware of, and unless something is egregious where it’s obvious the seller is malicious and it wasn’t a mistake (perhaps the seller only lists Chinese counterfeits), then it’s not fair to go and ding them without giving them a chance to make it right. If the problem is so inconsequential that you can just let it slide, you won’t possibly convince me it deserves a neutral or negative solely because otherwise eBay is going to leave a generic positive.
In my experience, roughly 1/3 of buyers leave feedback. Others have reported similar. I currently have just over 32,000 feedbacks on 100,000 transactions.
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Assuming that a large number of buyers are happy but too lazy to leave feedback, this approach should yield a fairer positive percentage, particularly for infrequent sellers. I always leave feedback, so I’m good with this.
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