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1972 Lincoln Cent possible FS-104 Die progression roll found

Hello everyone. I recently came across a full role of MS red 1972 Lincoln cents that I received at my local bank when I purchased some rolls to search through. Obviously very odd to see these especially in the condition they are in. As I went through them I noticed that they were each slightly different and had the die markers of the FS-104 most notably the cuds next to Liberty. These cuds changed in size gradually and I need help to identify if these are possibly a full die roll progression or even a new variety. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

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  • Coins3675Coins3675 Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭✭

    If you want help you need photos

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 31,416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can't tell without a few pictures 👍

  • ELVIS1ELVIS1 Posts: 427 ✭✭✭✭

    Missouri

  • Morgan WhiteMorgan White Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,643 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 10, 2025 12:31PM

    the die markers for 1972 ddo fs-104 is the doubling

  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 7,028 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cuds alone do not ID this cent. There are plenty of other markers. And Cuds are found on Non FS-104 cents.

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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Rim cuds aren't only found on FS-104. The doubling (though not really remarkable) has to be there (the doubled die was put in the press and the rim cuds began developing not long afterward). I believe the cuds led to the die failing and being taken out of service after a short amount of time, creating the rarity of the DDO. The reverse is also very distinctive (see Coppercoins or Variety Vista), and I've read that it can be found paired with a non-doubled obverse die, lending more proof that the DDO was replaced.

    Another thing that can be found on many of the die 4 DDOs is a strike-thru below the date:

    I've owned a few and speak from experience:

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,309 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Morgan White said:
    Yes.

    No

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 10,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Morgan White said:
    Yes.

    No

    Maybe

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  • Morgan WhiteMorgan White Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steven59 said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Morgan White said:
    Yes.

    No

    Maybe

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,643 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Possibly Maybe

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 10,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 4,087 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 10, 2025 4:14PM

    Someone sat next to that die as it was working and they carefully selected 50 pieces that would clearly show a cud progression. They then rolled those coins up and took them to a bank......

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