PCGS Restoration?
wood
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This 1908 $2.5 gold Indian has a bunch of green spots, PVC maybe? Would this qualify for restoration? As seen on the true view pictures, the spots were there when it was graded, and it seems like if it could be restored they would’ve done it at that time. Anyone have experience with the process?
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Yes, it qualifies.
You need to request a restoration before a restoration is considered.
That coin looks like a prime candidate for a restoration imo.
I haven't had them remove verdigris, etc via restoration, but I've had good results with their dip/treatments to rejuvenate expensive silver coins.
If it's stable and not changing or getting worse, I'd leave it alone. Those green spots were certainly seen by the PCGS graders and it apparently didn't bother them if they gave your coin a straight grade.
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dunno. couldn't the green develop after grading?
pcgs does not do restoration for free nor without a request via submission forms. they do note if a coin would benefit from resto
I assume the True View pics were made at the time the coin was graded. Restoration is fairly expensive because you pay for insured shipping both ways, the restoration, and I assume the coin needs to go through the grading process again in case and hidden hairlines are exposed after the restoration.
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D'oh
I've had coins that had prior issues that were there when holdered that PCGS has taken care of gratis. If you pay for this, restoration, grading, shipping to and from you're probably looking at $100 or more.
Thanks for the info! I guess contacting PCGS might be the move? I’m wondering if someone declined restoration when it was originally graded. Not sure paying to send it in for restoration is really worth it at this point
If that is PVC, and if the PCGS graders did not attend the Hellen Keller School of Grading, then they saw it when it went through. If they saw it as PVC then the submitter did not have the option of declining restoration if they wanted it in a straight-grade holder.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
So are you saying PCGS would’ve required it to be restored in order to straight grade? So they must not have offered restoration?
The coin is not sellable as is imo. Hopefully our hosts can restore it.
As a submitter you can request that anything that would end up in a "genuine" holder can be sent back to you raw. However, you can't demand that a "details coin" or "problem coin" or whatever, be placed into a straight-graded holder. In the case with a coin slathered with PVC the submitter can either have the coin sent back to them without encapsulation (raw) or sent back after conservation.
PVC residue gets a PCGS code of 99 and the coin cannot be placed into a PCGS holder as-is. Specifically, PCGS states the following-
"99 PVC Residue NOT HOLDERED
Fee not refunded. PVC is a plasticizer used to produce vinyl coin holders. Over time, PVC leaches out of these holders and will eventually damage the surface of the coin. PVC is seen as small green specks or a slimy green film. (This no-grade will not be sealed in a PCGS holder.)"
Below is a PCGS YouTube video about PVC damage-
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Ok, so you think when it was graded it wasn’t seen as pvc?
Well, the issue with the coin was obviously there and active when the coin was submitted since the TrueView image was taken prior to encapsulation by PCGS. So, either the PCGS graders either didn't think it was PVC or they just completely whiffed on this one (which would be one heck of a whiff if this is PVC), or the coin was inadvertently placed into a holder when it was supposed to be bagged. Either way, if this is PVC then PCGS dropped the ball at some point in the process.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Agreed, kinda why I’m confused about this in general.