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1921 Morgan double error

I was just wondering if this coin was worth grading. Its got a clip error along with date stamp error.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is impact damage in both locations. Save your money.

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  • Morgan WhiteMorgan White Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    That is impact damage in both locations. Save your money.

    +1

  • Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2025 8:10AM

    I was looking at a similar one on ebay.
    Edited to add that the coin also looks dipped and cleaned.

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  • MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As Fred said, a rim clip, plus a slight grease fill on the date. Minor premium value, but not worth a slab.

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,329 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Rim clips on 1921 Morgans are worth about $80. Had the grease fill totally and cleanly removed the 192 of the date, that would be worth a premium as well.

  • Morgan WhiteMorgan White Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Morgan White said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    That is impact damage in both locations. Save your money.

    +1

    Oops, lol.

  • CregCreg Posts: 875 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m glad that the boss came in early today.

    @FredWeinberg said:
    Not worth the slabbing fees, but it’s a genuine rim clip error

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,305 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No slab here either, see if some one would swap ya something for it, just saying

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,855 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2025 8:42AM

    @Morgan White said:

    @Morgan White said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    That is impact damage in both locations. Save your money.

    +1

    Oops, lol.

    Oops squared. Lol

    Why does the reverse of the rim clip look mashed? Or is it just weakly struck?

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  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Why does the reverse of the rim clip look mashed? Or is it just weakly struck?

    Blakesley effect caused by metal flow during the strike. It's a hallmark of genuine clips. You need to worry when a supposed clip DOESN'T show that weakness on both sides.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,469 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jonathanb said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Why does the reverse of the rim clip look mashed? Or is it just weakly struck?

    Blakesley effect caused by metal flow during the strike. It's a hallmark of genuine clips. You need to worry when a supposed clip DOESN'T show that weakness on both sides.

    The Blakesley Effect would be opposite the clip, not on the other side of the coin in the same spot as the clip. ;)

    In the case of the OP's coin, the weakness on the reverse is just due to insufficient metal due to the clip.

  • Coins3675Coins3675 Posts: 425 ✭✭✭

    Don't get it graded

  • Thank everyone, I will just keep in my collection. :)

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,016 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the term is not date stamp error

    dates are not struck separately

    that is a grease filled die error

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jonathanb said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Why does the reverse of the rim clip look mashed? Or is it just weakly struck?

    Blakesley effect caused by metal flow during the strike. It's a hallmark of genuine clips. You need to worry when a supposed clip DOESN'T show that weakness on both sides.

    The Blakesley would be across the coin from the clip, nor directly opposite on the other side.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,329 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Sib_76 said:
    Thank everyone, I will just keep in my collection. :)

    Good idea.

  • Morgan WhiteMorgan White Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @jonathanb said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Why does the reverse of the rim clip look mashed? Or is it just weakly struck?

    Blakesley effect caused by metal flow during the strike. It's a hallmark of genuine clips. You need to worry when a supposed clip DOESN'T show that weakness on both sides.

    The Blakesley would be across the coin from the clip, nor directly opposite on the other side.

    And, I thought even on small clips, it would have some effect. This one doesn't appear to, which is one of the reasons I also thought it wasn't a clip.

  • LazybonesLazybones Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don't know much about the coin, but I know where you can save 15% or more on your car insurance!

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,777 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Morgan White on very small clips and also on very large clips there may be no Blakesly effect noticeable.

    Heres an example

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