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  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,727 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tramp said:
    Does a DDR with an estimated survival estimate of 40 count?

    I love that coin but I think you are quite a bit off with your survival estimate. There are probably 200-300 extant. There are >60 straight graded examples just at PCGS.

    chopmarkedtradedollars.com

  • pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OnlyGoldIsMoney said:
    640

    Why was the mintage figure so low for the 80's Philly 2.5s?

    God comes first in everything I do. I’m dedicated to serving Him with my whole life. Coin collecting is just a hobby—but even in that, I seek to honor Him. ✝️

  • OnlyGoldIsMoneyOnlyGoldIsMoney Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @OnlyGoldIsMoney said:
    640

    Why was the mintage figure so low for the 80's Philly 2.5s?

    I don't know that answer but the low mintages from 1880 through 1885 were a primary reason I was attracted to this series. The last San Franciso $2.5 issue was 1879 - Philadelphia alone produced quarter eagles from 1880 through 1910.

  • ColorfulcoinsColorfulcoins Posts: 3,371 ✭✭✭

    1873 No Arrows, Seated Liberty Half, Open 3. Mintage unknown but less than 50 examples graded. Mine is a PCGS graded PO01.

    Craig
    If I had it my way, stupidity would be painful!
  • TrampTramp Posts: 741 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lermish said:

    @Tramp said:
    Does a DDR with an estimated survival estimate of 40 count?

    I love that coin but I think you are quite a bit off with your survival estimate. There are probably 200-300 extant. There are >60 straight graded examples just at PCGS.

    I believe I'm looking at it correctly.

    USAF (Ret.) 1985 - 2005. E-4B Aircraft Maintenance Crew Chief and Contracting Officer.
    My current Registry sets:
    ✓ Everyman Mint State Carson City Morgan Dollars (1878 – 1893)
    ✓ Everyman Mint State Lincoln Cents (1909 – 1958)
    ✓ Morgan Dollar GSA Hoard (1878 – 1891)

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 14, 2025 12:10AM

    ...> @Tramp said:

    @lermish said:

    @Tramp said:
    Does a DDR with an estimated survival estimate of 40 count?

    I love that coin but I think you are quite a bit off with your survival estimate. There are probably 200-300 extant. There are >60 straight graded examples just at PCGS.

    I believe I'm looking at it correctly.

    I believe those numbers represent those that have been attributed and labeled as DDRs by PCGS. That doesn't include those DDRs that are not labeled as DDRs. PCGS shows 49 different grading and attributions for the DDR alone. How many did NGC, ANACS, and CAC grade and attribute, or not attribute?

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • TrampTramp Posts: 741 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 14, 2025 5:16AM

    @Barberian said:
    ...> @Tramp said:

    @lermish said:

    @Tramp said:
    Does a DDR with an estimated survival estimate of 40 count?

    I love that coin but I think you are quite a bit off with your survival estimate. There are probably 200-300 extant. There are >60 straight graded examples just at PCGS.

    I believe I'm looking at it correctly.

    I believe those numbers represent those that have been attributed and labeled as DDRs by PCGS. That doesn't include those DDRs that are not labeled as DDRs. PCGS shows 49 different grading and attributions for the DDR alone. How many did NGC, ANACS, and CAC grade and attribute, or not attribute?

    PCGS' explanation:
    https://www.pcgs.com/news/tips-on-using-pcgs-coinfacts-8
    It would appear that PCGS' does take into account coins graded by other TPG's, uncertified raw #, etc. for their estimated survival numbers.

    USAF (Ret.) 1985 - 2005. E-4B Aircraft Maintenance Crew Chief and Contracting Officer.
    My current Registry sets:
    ✓ Everyman Mint State Carson City Morgan Dollars (1878 – 1893)
    ✓ Everyman Mint State Lincoln Cents (1909 – 1958)
    ✓ Morgan Dollar GSA Hoard (1878 – 1891)

  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,727 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tramp said:

    @Barberian said:
    ...> @Tramp said:

    @lermish said:

    @Tramp said:
    Does a DDR with an estimated survival estimate of 40 count?

    I love that coin but I think you are quite a bit off with your survival estimate. There are probably 200-300 extant. There are >60 straight graded examples just at PCGS.

    I believe I'm looking at it correctly.

    I believe those numbers represent those that have been attributed and labeled as DDRs by PCGS. That doesn't include those DDRs that are not labeled as DDRs. PCGS shows 49 different grading and attributions for the DDR alone. How many did NGC, ANACS, and CAC grade and attribute, or not attribute?

    PCGS' explanation:
    https://www.pcgs.com/news/tips-on-using-pcgs-coinfacts-8
    It would appear that PCGS' does take into account coins graded by other TPG's, uncertified raw #, etc. for their estimated survival numbers.

    Couple of things. First of all, here are the current pop reports:


    But also, Coinfacts is just wrong. The entire trade dollar series has been riddled with misinformation and miscomprehensions for decades. Hopefully things get corrected with the publishing of @keoj 's book but it will take a long time to clean everything up. And, as we've seen recently, PCGS is in no hurry to fix errors of any kind on their various technological platforms.

    For the record, Coinfacts also shows total survival for all 1876-CCs as 300 when between just PCGS & NGC there are over 600 certified.

    chopmarkedtradedollars.com

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 14, 2025 6:37AM

    @Tramp said:

    @Barberian said:
    ...> @Tramp said:

    @lermish said:

    @Tramp said:
    Does a DDR with an estimated survival estimate of 40 count?

    I love that coin but I think you are quite a bit off with your survival estimate. There are probably 200-300 extant. There are >60 straight graded examples just at PCGS.

    I believe I'm looking at it correctly.

    I believe those numbers represent those that have been attributed and labeled as DDRs by PCGS. That doesn't include those DDRs that are not labeled as DDRs. PCGS shows 49 different grading and attributions for the DDR alone. How many did NGC, ANACS, and CAC grade and attribute, or not attribute?

    PCGS' explanation:
    https://www.pcgs.com/news/tips-on-using-pcgs-coinfacts-8
    It would appear that PCGS' does take into account coins graded by other TPG's, uncertified raw #, etc. for their estimated survival numbers.

    Sorry to tell you this, but PCGS CoinFacts population estimates are NOT RELIABLE AT ALL. For example, the 1842-O small date and letters half has a PCGS population estimate of 100 coins when there are 104 tallied in their PCGS population count alone without considering the 45 or so NGC examples. Then there are others in ANACS and other TPGs holders, as well as other ungraded examples. I'd guess that there are at least 250 examples out there, not the 100 coins that PCGS estimates exist.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • CoinbertCoinbert Posts: 502 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agree with you completely Barbarian, many of us have collected/studied our special area of expertise for 20, 30 or more years and have a better idea of the rarity/population than published data. The pop reports are inflated in virtually every series.

  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,727 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinbert said:
    Agree with you completely Barbarian, many of us have collected/studied our special area of expertise for 20, 30 or more years and have a better idea of the rarity/population than published data. The pop reports are inflated in virtually every series.

    Or, as in this case, deflated.

    chopmarkedtradedollars.com

  • TrampTramp Posts: 741 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It appears you are arguing my point; fewer not more. Sure crack outs, resubmissions to PCGS' and resubmissions to different TPGs mess with the total populations leading to inflated numbers, meaning there is likely fewer, not more.

    We can also agree I've only referred to estimated survival in my comments, not population. We can also agree that PCGS differentiates between the data used for population vs estimated survival.

    If PCGS' data is unreliable so be it.

    I appreciate the discussion.

    USAF (Ret.) 1985 - 2005. E-4B Aircraft Maintenance Crew Chief and Contracting Officer.
    My current Registry sets:
    ✓ Everyman Mint State Carson City Morgan Dollars (1878 – 1893)
    ✓ Everyman Mint State Lincoln Cents (1909 – 1958)
    ✓ Morgan Dollar GSA Hoard (1878 – 1891)

  • ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2, 2025 9:34PM

    600 (same coin, sorry for the phone pics, it’s pretty in hand)



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