Elusive mint Lion Dollar Newp

messydesk

Got this undated Friesland mint Lion Dollar today. Not as plentiful as most other mints. Just need to find a "zwemmende leeuw" Zeeland issue (1598-99) that I like and that'll be all 10 reasonably collectible mints (Zutphen is very expensive and seldomly available, Nijmegen even moreso).

SimonW

That's cool! So there's twelve mints total? Where do you make out the mint on one of these?

I bought one a little while back in a pedestrian grade as a curiosity. The pilgrims may have carried this on the Mayflower from Holland in 1620, I thought that was a cool thought.

I bought this one specifically because it seems to have one of the better strikes I've seen within the grade range.

messydesk

@SimonW said:
That's cool! So there's twelve mints total? Where do you make out the mint on one of these?

Typically abbreviated at the top left of the obverse:
HOL - Holland
GEL - Gelderland
TRAI - Utrecht
TRAN - Overijssel
WEST(F) - West Friesland
CAMPEN - Kampen
ZWOL(LE) - Zwolle
ZEL - Zeeland
FR(I) - Friesland
DAVENT - Deventer
ZVTPHANIÆ - Zutphen
NOVIOMA - Nijmegen

Kampen and Zwolle sometimes also have HOL on them.

I bought one a little while back in a pedestrian grade as a curiosity. The pilgrims may have carried this on the Mayflower from Holland in 1620, I thought that was a cool thought.

I bought this one specifically because it seems to have one of the better strikes I've seen within the grade range.

Strike is all over on these. Yours looks pretty nice.

pcgsregistrycollector

@messydesk said:
Got this undated Friesland mint Lion Dollar today. Not as plentiful as most other mints. Just need to find a "zwemmende leeuw" Zeeland issue (1598-99) that I like and that'll be all 10 reasonably collectible mints (Zutphen is very expensive and seldomly available, Nijmegen even moreso).

How much you pay for it if you don't mind me asking?

messydesk

@pcgsregistrycollector said:

@messydesk said:
Got this undated Friesland mint Lion Dollar today. Not as plentiful as most other mints. Just need to find a "zwemmende leeuw" Zeeland issue (1598-99) that I like and that'll be all 10 reasonably collectible mints (Zutphen is very expensive and seldomly available, Nijmegen even moreso).

How much you pay for it if you don't mind me asking?

350

fluffy155

I've always loved these, I see them as the European version of new world cobs. Every once in a while I catch the bug and buy one... I wish there was a dedicated work on them but I guess the audience would be a bit limited.

Or maybe I've missed it and there is one?

messydesk

@fluffy155 said:
I've always loved these, I see them as the European version of new world cobs. Every once in a while I catch the bug and buy one... I wish there was a dedicated work on them but I guess the audience would be a bit limited.

Or maybe I've missed it and there is one?

These are predecessors to the Spanish dollar as far as international trade is considered. I don't think there is other than "Le Benelux d'argent" by Delmonte, and that's not really dedicated to these. If there were a modern comprehensive reference for these, the initial audience would be a bit limited, but a new wealth of information would also likely cause increased interest in the series.

Within the past 10 years, someone came out with a book on Dutch gold ducats (can't exactly remember who or when), so a Lion Dollar book wouldn't be out of the question.