Inconsistency of PCGS deciding what is Label side and which side of Trueview goes first

Epara

Hello! So just to quickly state, Im world coin collector and currently completing Slovak WW2 set. Over the years I sent multiple coins in for grading and the label side/first pic of TV changes too inconsistently.

The simple way of putting it, by the usual rules obverse is side with coat of arms and reverse is side with denomination, a lot of the time people think its other way around and to be honest, I wouldnt care either way if it was consistent.

To see what I mean lets do it by denomination:

5 Halierov
MS63 Coat of Arms is first picture

MS64 Number is first picture

Reality:

Both of the coins are coat of arms on label side

10 Halierov I dont have TV one one of them and second one has Euroview but, that doesnt mean everything is all right

20 Halierov 1940 and 1942 (both CU and ALU) are missing TV but the two that have it

do have it other way around

Funnily enough just like the 5 Haliers, they have the same label side (To point out, the three 20 Haliers without TV were slabbed together)

50 Halierov, now this one is pure fun, three coins and each slabbed/TVd differently

1940 is "correct", 1941 has "correct" TV but "wrong" label side, 1944 has "wrong" TV but "correct" label side

1 Koruna, this gets much more simple 3 of the coins (graded together) dont have TV and are slabbed the same way but they have flipped label side (The truviews are correctly placed on the two coins so Im not including them to reduce amount of clutter in this post)

For the rest of the denominations, label sides and TVs are correct and label side is the denomination/design/person consistently, apart for two Cyrill and Metodius 20 Korun 1941 (graded together) which have coat of arms on label side but their TV is also flipped

So why I made this post? I just wanted to point out how random/inconsistent label side / first true view is when it comes to world coins and hope that PCGS could make up its mind, I honestly dont care that much if coat of arms or denomination is on label side, I would just love if it looked good when I look at them or show them, this inconsistency looks quite half-assed/cheap imo.

I wonder what are your experiences? Do you have always obverse on label side or at least having it consistent or just like me dice throw?

just as disclaimer: I dont look for reslabbing/moving trueviews or anything like that, I was already once offered to make TVs (the coins without TVs were supposed to have TVs but by mistake they werent, PCGS offered to fix it for free covering expenses but I live in EU and didnt want to risk them getting lost nor wanted to risk paying 20% import tax on stuff I already owned because customs can be stupid like that)

Thanks for reading this rant

Clio

It's very frustrating but I've had similar issues with Irish Issues. Most of the time the slabs were at least correct but the trueviews flip flopped occasionally depending on the day. If the coin doesn't have a head on one side to orientate them, they are totally lost.

I think they have similar issues with some Spanish Reales. Pillar types.

oldsmagnet

For my Australian stuff, the vast majority is "backwards" from normal conventions, ie, the obverse, 'heads' is on the back, and 2nd in the TV pics. To me, this displays much better, especially in album view, because the reverse changes every year, and the obverse goes many many years with no significant design changes. I suspect occasionally they'll get someone new that actually does it "correctly," leading to the mismatch.

For those who do face this, and want to correct their album views, you can click the virtual coin in your album editor page, then just drag the image left or right, trueviews have both sides in the same picture -- I know that little detail has caused people confusion in the past, so it might help someone...maybe...