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Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭✭✭

27.4mm, 7.9g, Need some EAC help confirming this is M.16.6-H. Breen Encyc is not clear enough 4 me. Rev die break at K5, B from R and L, might be helpful? Thanks in advance. Peace Roy

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry I know nothing about these at all.

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  • 4Redisin4Redisin Posts: 623 ✭✭✭

    You will probably need the Colonial references or wait until an EAC member responds because I couldn't find an example on the internet. This should be a very easy variety to confirm; however, it is rare so no easy to find examples.

  • ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 735 ✭✭✭✭

    You have a 16.5-H. The 16.5 and 16.6 obverses are the same die but they come in multiple die states which added to some confusion. It is a rarity-5 coin, but yours is a bit beat up, so there probably isn’t going to much if any premium attached to it. Still a cool piece of history.

  • 4Redisin4Redisin Posts: 623 ✭✭✭

    @Colonialcoin said:
    You have a 16.5-H. The 16.5 and 16.6 obverses are the same die but they come in multiple die states which added to some confusion. It is a rarity-5 coin, but yours is a bit beat up, so there probably isn’t going to much if any premium attached to it. Still a cool piece of history.

    Thanks for posting tonight. I feel like a dummy. They both have the same reverse H so they both have the die break. Several M-16.5 coins are illustrated all over the place, but I did not bother to look since they were not 16.4's. Does that mean 16.4 is rarer than 16.5?

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Colonialcoin said:
    You have a 16.5-H. The 16.5 and 16.6 obverses are the same die but they come in multiple die states which added to some confusion. It is a rarity-5 coin, but yours is a bit beat up, so there probably isn’t going to much if any premium attached to it. Still a cool piece of history.

    Thanks for this. Is the uneven date, the H designation?

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  • ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 735 ✭✭✭✭

    @4Redisin said:

    @Colonialcoin said:
    You have a 16.5-H. The 16.5 and 16.6 obverses are the same die but they come in multiple die states which added to some confusion. It is a rarity-5 coin, but yours is a bit beat up, so there probably isn’t going to much if any premium attached to it. Still a cool piece of history.

    Thanks for posting tonight. I feel like a dummy. They both have the same reverse H so they both have the die break. Several M-16.5 coins are illustrated all over the place, but I did not bother to look since they were not 16.4's. Does that mean 16.4 is rarer than 16.5?

    You’re welcome. The 16.4 obverse is struck with two different 1788 reverses. One of them comes with the reverse legend as Inde Et to the left of the figure and the other with Inde to the left of the figure. It also is struck with four different 1787 reverses. There are a handful of Connecticuts in which the dies were used in different years.

    Connecticut coppers have over 350 varieties. For my personal taste, at least 150 of them are a bit boring in that they look the same outside of some subtle differences such as punctuation, where the ribbons on the wreath are pointing, etc. The others have characteristics that immediately stand out. It is a very complex yet enjoyable series to collect.

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