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1922-D Peace Dollar: Will this spot prevent CAC?

ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 6,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

I just received my newps: 1922-D PCGS MS66. Got it at a great price, there's one issue that I see which is the spot on the eagle's left wing. It is not a carbon spot. I have had JA reject coins because of carbon spots, but what about a spot like this? I don't know whether to try to have the coin restored first or just send to CAC and see. Looking for opinions...
Also, if you think the coin is not a "solid" 66 for other reasons would like to know if and why you think that.

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  • Ridley06Ridley06 Posts: 72 ✭✭✭

    I personally don't think the spot would soley disqualify the coin from CAC'ing. Looks like a nice 66. Any chance of in-hand pics?

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,455 ✭✭✭✭✭

    will cac get cose enough to see it is dark brown versus jet black

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  • I think the luster would send it over the edge. My two cents.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,455 ✭✭✭✭✭

    and a great strike

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  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That spot alone shouldn't disqualify a 66 from CACing. Cool die cracks. I believe it has a good shot at a green bean.

  • john_nyc1john_nyc1 Posts: 165 ✭✭✭

    I think it will CAC. Super nice coin. Poor me will have to be content with the very nice MS65 I purchased from you!)

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  • coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice coin. Surprised a worn, cracked die produced such a great strike and luster.

  • Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 5,955 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No it won’t.

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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,460 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the spot and the die crack will preclude stickering.

    I like the die crack as an interest point personally.

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  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,757 ✭✭✭✭✭

    looks nice for grade, but I can speak from experience CAC is brutal on peace dollars in the MS range. It takes a pop for a superb gem to sticker.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,533 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Only CAC knows as it will be their "opinion" that counts, not comments from outsiders.

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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,358 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wouldn't worry about it. Too many second guess CAC. I recently bought a PCGS AU58 example of this date. Thanks for this thread. I got the piece out and might get it reholdered and see if I can get a green bean on it. All the '22 Peace dollars are cool.

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  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 6,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Catbert said:
    I think the spot and the die crack will preclude stickering.

    I like the die crack as an interest point personally.

    I'm pretty sure die cracks don't count against a coin.

    @291fifth said:
    Only CAC knows as it will be their "opinion" that counts, not comments from outsiders.

    Thanks, Captain obvious. My intent wasn't to print out the forum replies and submit it along with the coin to try to persuade him with the forum's opinions.

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,630 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t know

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the spot will be seen as a corrosion spot that has etched the surface and keep it from passing.

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,152 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks more like a small planchet inclusion than a spot, which would make it far less of an issue in my eyes.

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No clue, but I like it provided that spot isn’t embedded. Honestly, I would normally have overlooked it but since there’s so much fuss…..

  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 6,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oldabeintx said:
    No clue, but I like it provided that spot isn’t embedded. Honestly, I would normally have overlooked it but since there’s so much fuss…..

    CAC is fussy...

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,645 ✭✭✭✭✭

    CAC doesn't like spots so no it won't sticker.

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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,842 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2, 2025 2:01PM

    I specialize in Peace dollars and have always had tremendous difficulty predicting what CAC will do with them.

    I’m guessing the majority of 22-D coins at MS66 in retail channels would have already been seen by them. The price/value proposition makes it worth a try, or even a few tries.

    I like the coin. There are a few abrasions on the neck, the eagle’s rock, and the feathers. If they’re only frost breaks, no biggie. If they catch light (sparkle or glint) when rotated, it can be a bigger problem.

    If it doesn’t sticker, the spot will likely not be the reason.

  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 6,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    CAC doesn't like spots so no it won't sticker.

    Is it your contention that all spots are treated equally or is a spot of dirt OK compared to a carbon spot?

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,608 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 3, 2025 6:59AM

    It’s a moot issue for me. As it’s a thumbs down for me due to the spot yes you can probably try for the CAC price if it’s stickered but who’s going to buy it? Have u tried shop one around the bourse? Frankly I seriously doubt CAC would sticker it.

    Sticker or no sticker that prominent spot makes it a no go for me. I think it would be tough to sell and even then an offer wb considerably discounted.

    Bourse room talk indicates Buyers at shows becoming more fussy on what they buy these days.

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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,645 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ProofCollection said:

    @GRANDAM said:
    CAC doesn't like spots so no it won't sticker.

    Is it your contention that all spots are treated equally or is a spot of dirt OK compared to a carbon spot?

    It is my contention that any Coin I’ve ever sent to CAC with any kind of a spot failed to sticker

    GrandAm :)

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