PCGS Washington Quarter Grading Results in!

Matt04

This was my first ever PCGS Submission and to be completely honest not bad at all. After several months of cherrypicking Quarters and Asking you folks on here questions to better understand how to have an eye for perfect Washington Quarters I sent a submission in. After looking at the True-views I am shocked how at least one other Quarter did not Receive a 67.

Here's all the grades in order from the PCGS List Above:

1947-P : MS65?? - Kinda shocked

1947-P #2 MS66 - I guess

1947-D: MS66 - I think this deserves a 66+ or 7

1934-P HVY Motto: MS64 - Maybe MS65? Hit above eye & hits on bottom of bust? Clearfield and reverse & Fantastic Luster

1962-D: MS66 - Accurate/Fair Grade No Complaints

1946-S: MS67 - Accurate/Fair Grade No Complaints

1958-P: MS66 - Candidate due to tone for 67?

1942-S: MS66 - Accurate/Fair Grade No Complaints

Davidk7

The 47-D, 34, and 1956 are properly graded IMO. The 56 is maxed out at 66, not enough juice for 67. The 34 is nice, I suspect a few select marks kept it out of the GEM category, and the 47-d is a mix of the previous 2 reasons listed.

The 1947-P #1 looks pretty nice for a 65, but you can see the variance in Trueviews with just your submission, so it's hard to make a determination of it not in hand. Looks like a solid submission overall!

TomB

Your results are fantastic and I am really happy for you. My impression of the TrueView images is that they are still not up to par with where they were a few years ago and that the white balance and lighting may not be consistent from coin-to-coin. Of course, I could be wrong about those impressions.

I've gone to the PCGS cert verification page and blown up (downloaded) each of the images to see if there is anything that might stand out as far as grade is concerned.

1947 MS65-I see nothing that would indicate the coin be limited to MS65. There are some "stains" for lack of a better term on the reverse that are a beige-tan color and these can deaden luster in the local areas, but overall the coin looks like an MS66 from the images.

1947 MS66-This coin I could definitely see going MS65, but it went MS66. Shows you how much I know!

1947-D MS66-I think I remember this coin from a previous thread and at that time I might have been worried about the surface staining or streaking as we couldn't quite tell what it was. It appears to have fabulous luster (the 1947-D typically does not come with luster like the 1947-S), great die cracks on both sides and what might be a planchet flaw or void behind Washington's portrait. Might it grade MS66+ or MS67 upon regrade? Sure, but it might come back the same, too.

1934 MS64-The divot on the eyebrow was likely what limited this coin when you also take into account the somewhat chippy nature of Washington's neck and the vertical cut on the eagle's left leg. In my opinion, and it is only an opinion, the way a grader catches a mark, nick or hit on a coin in the light can impact the grade heavily. So, if a grader rotated this coin under the light and that cut on the eagle's leg jumped out then it might have been thought of as more severe than if the cut didn't jump out and, therefore, might have helped to hold the grade back.

1962-D MS66-It presents at first as fine as an MS66, but I could see this going MS65 or MS65+ as well given what appears to be a decent scratch along Washington's jawline (maybe it is a strikethrough-I don't know) on the obverse and the overall nicked up nature of the eagle on the reverse.

1946-S MS67-If I recall correctly, I was worried about the toning on this coin in your images, but the TV images make it look like a different coin. I'm still not completely sold on it, but it doesn't matter what I think. This is an example where toning carried the grade in that if this coin were blast white then that series of divots above the portrait would almost certainly have precluded an MS67 grade.

1956 MS66-It has typical mint set toning that I don't see special enough for MS67. Essentially, the same opinion for potential upgrade as the 1947-D.

1942-S MS66-The eagle's knees are a bit banged up as is Washington's skull. The toning is near impossible for me to interpret from the image. I guess the grade is fair.

I think you did great, but if you did not want opinions on each piece then please let me know and I will delete this post.

jesbroken

I feel you had a great submission. I can feel your pain on a couple, but as @TomB said there are reasons which separate us from professional graders. When you remember that PCGS has to guarantee their work, then you may feel a little more agreeable to their opinions. Congrats.
Jim

Matt04

@TomB said:
Your results are fantastic and I am really happy for you. My impression of the TrueView images is that they are still not up to par with where they were a few years ago and that the white balance and lighting may not be consistent from coin-to-coin. Of course, I could be wrong about those impressions.

I've gone to the PCGS cert verification page and blown up (downloaded) each of the images to see if there is anything that might stand out as far as grade is concerned.

1947 MS65-I see nothing that would indicate the coin be limited to MS65. There are some "stains" for lack of a better term on the reverse that are a beige-tan color and these can deaden luster in the local areas, but overall the coin looks like an MS66 from the images.

1947 MS66-This coin I could definitely see going MS65, but it went MS66. Shows you how much I know!

1947-D MS66-I think I remember this coin from a previous thread and at that time I might have been worried about the surface staining or streaking as we couldn't quite tell what it was. It appears to have fabulous luster (the 1947-D typically does not come with luster like the 1947-S), great die cracks on both sides and what might be a planchet flaw or void behind Washington's portrait. Might it grade MS66+ or MS67 upon regrade? Sure, but it might come back the same, too.

1934 MS64-The divot on the eyebrow was likely what limited this coin when you also take into account the somewhat chippy nature of Washington's neck and the vertical cut on the eagle's left leg. In my opinion, and it is only an opinion, the way a grader catches a mark, nick or hit on a coin in the light can impact the grade heavily. So, if a grader rotated this coin under the light and that cut on the eagle's leg jumped out then it might have been thought of as more severe than if the cut didn't jump out and, therefore, might have helped to hold the grade back.

1962-D MS66-It presents at first as fine as an MS66, but I could see this going MS65 or MS65+ as well given what appears to be a decent scratch along Washington's jawline (maybe it is a strikethrough-I don't know) on the obverse and the overall nicked up nature of the eagle on the reverse.

1946-S MS67-If I recall correctly, I was worried about the toning on this coin in your images, but the TV images make it look like a different coin. I'm still not completely sold on it, but it doesn't matter what I think. This is an example where toning carried the grade in that if this coin were blast white then that series of divots above the portrait would almost certainly have precluded an MS67 grade.

1956 MS66-It has typical mint set toning that I don't see special enough for MS67. Essentially, the same opinion for potential upgrade as the 1947-D.

1942-S MS66-The eagle's knees are a bit banged up as is Washington's skull. The toning is near impossible for me to interpret from the image. I guess the grade is fair.

I think you did great, but if you did not want opinions on each piece then please let me know and I will delete this post.

Thank you for this thoroughly detailed explanation on each Quarter. Opinions are always welcomed, that's the entire reason why I make these discussion posts! The more you know, the better. I really wish there was a way to get further explanation on grades from PCGS, I called yesterday and they stated that don't do this which would be helpful if they did depending on the circumstance but its fine. The only two Quarters which I felt really deserved higher was the first 47-P and the 47-D with fantastic luster. Other than these two I am satisfied with the outcome and it is a great learning lesson too! I'd like to do another submission soon once I save the funds to do so and eye out the right Quarters!

Matt04

Also, my other 2 Quarters 1932-P & 1932-S are still stuck in Grading Received on the same date together. These though are a regrade. So more updates to follow! I don't expect the 32-S to upgrade. Just the 1932-P I thought would. I wanted True-views and reholdering so got two birds with one stone done.