How Do I Tell The Difference In Real And Artificial Toning
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Some are obvious with colors that are never seen on natural toned coins. Some are not definite either way. This linked thread has some of the science behind it.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/708296/towards-an-understanding-of-the-color-progression-on-toned-coins/p1
For the coins you are interested in (say toned MS Morgans) I would look at Trueview photos in Coinfacts to get a “feel” for what is market acceptable.
"Flip a coin"
Sometimes it is super obvious, other times it is a gut feeling and not so obvious otherwise.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Just a thought:
If the toning appears to be etched into the coin surface it could be AT. I've found over the past 25+ years original toning looks like oil on water. The toning seems to float on the surface. Reach out to Mark Feld, he might have some insight on what to look for and/or share on these boards.
Additionally, there is a consistent toning patterns to coins. Seek out a coin color spectrum. It will assist in the color movement across the coin.
There was a great ANA video on this way back. It would be great to find.
Honestly, it comes down to experience. Seeing a lot of certified examples of both NT and AT coins, you start to notice the difference in their "look".
Not easily described, unfortunately. Looking at a lot of slabbed coins, particularly classic vs modern should be instructive. See if you can attend a show to examine various graded coins. The CoinFacts site with pictures can help, but time spent with coins are the best way to train your eye.
@Zoins has a reverse toned Morgan dollar (detailed graded) that is clearly artificially toned. Perhaps if he sees this message, he'll post it for you. Yet, there are many naturally toned Morgans that received their toning from sulfur infused cloth bags. Such toners often produce outrageously beautiful colors.
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
The only thing my read was there are many color spectrum's and how to weigh their density for resale. Does this method help in the AT or NT question.
Reason why.
This coin below seems, too exact, in the placement of the color hues shown in photo.
In hand shows it much better , more pastel looking. Hey, not by me. Given to me as change while delivering a pizza.
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I don't think this is correct. A natural toning progression gets darker and the darker it gets, the more the surface is destroyed (etched).
This is a shock! Previously, I've only seen the magnified, colorful, corroded, images. I like the improvement.
Follow the money, you'll get your answer.
Thanks @4Redisin, I hope I can maintain the standard.
This photo shows my struggle with the quality of in hand, i'm trying to project.
I have to use close up's for the color definition factor.
Are some NT due to laminations ?
Reason why,I can't see any scaring due to this factor.
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