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1842 SLHD WB-7 w/ a huge rim cud ??? Help!

LeeroybrownLeeroybrown Posts: 468 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 27, 2025 4:36PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Does anyone know alot about this variety? My mom bought me this cool coin for my birthday because of the cud for my DANSCO album xtras due to the cud on reverse and I dont know a ton about it. Is it a WB-7 ?? What rarity is it?

Thx in advance for the help!!


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  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's commonly called the "cud over TAT" half dollar, not sure which variety it is but it is fairly common. Nice coin though.

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can’t attribute to the variety number, but that’s a darn nice thick and longer- than- average
    rim cud on an earlier coin – I like it.

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,854 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 27, 2025 6:47PM

    In the old (1993) Wiley-Bugert book it is:

    WB-102. SMALL DATE, CUD OVER TAT. (1 TAIL DIE)
    This interesting variety has a very heavy advanced die break (cud) on the rim above the letters TAT in STATES. This cud is visible on VG- 10 coins and higher and has been on all but one of this tail die seen by the authors. Most likely this portion of the rim broke away very early in the life of the die. Coins without the cud are very rare. This reverse die is cracked along the bottoms of the letters HALF DOL. and along the tops of MERI on all examples seen. (Breen-Unlisted)
    R5 in XF/AU

    In the new (2016) Bugert guide it is:

    WB-7, Small Date, Cud over “TAT”
    Obverse 1
    Small Date
     Date right (photo). The small tine in left field
    off the tip of the serif of the 1(842) seen on
    previous uses of this die is not now visible.
    The (18)4(2) is slightly repunched north
    (photo below).
     Liberty’s upper chest and breast area is
    typically weak on examples of this die
    marriage.
     Die crack thru stars 1-6 to head to star 7;
    another along the base of the digits in the date.
    (See enhanced die crack diagram on the next
    page.)
    Reverse F
    Large Letters
     Prominent rim cud above (S)TAT(ES) visible
    on all but the lowest grade examples of this
    die marriage (photo)
     Extensive die cracks around the legend and
    denomination. (See enhanced die crack
    diagram on the next page.)
     Weak details at eagle’s lower left leg, the
    eagle’s talons, and the arrow feathers
     At least example has been seen without the
    cud.
    This is the fourth use of this obverse die and only use of this reverse die.
    This die marriage with cud reverse is by far the most common of the 1842 small date half dollars.
    Date grid: M4, .030” 145 reeds Typical diameter = 1.214” Rarity - 2
    Drapery die state: Full Foot support: Full Dentils: Obverse - Full; Reverse - Full
    Grade of coin depicted: AU53 Coin from the Bill Bugert Collection
    Cross reference: WB-102. Version 82.S

  • LeeroybrownLeeroybrown Posts: 468 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does anyone have the online links to each of the Wiley-Bugert books?

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,854 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 27, 2025 6:57PM

    @Leeroybrown said:
    Does anyone have the online links to each of the Wiley-Bugert books?

    The old book is at:

    https://archive.org/details/compguidelibhalfdollar1993lawr

    The new Bugert guides (free PDF files) are at:

    http://old.lsccweb.org/BillBugertBooks.php

  • seatedlib3991seatedlib3991 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Leeroybrown . I don't know if it pertains to what you want but there is also a page that has the updates that have been made on new varieties. I don't know where it is on the new page but if you click on the old page link at the top of the page you will find the list near the bottom of that opening page, james

  • LeeroybrownLeeroybrown Posts: 468 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you all for the info and guidance on this coin and reference material. Much appreciated.

    Dacin

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,085 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Leeroybrown said:
    Does anyone have the online links to each of the Wiley-Bugert books?

    I keep links to all the attribution stuff I can find here: http://varslab.com/res.html. The Bugert guides are linked along with a lot of other stuff.

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