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GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,562 ✭✭✭✭✭

These designs leave a lot to be desired IMO.
Hey, it's 2025 and we have amazing artistic tools at our disposal.
These artistic ideas need to have another work-over.
@KellenCoin, let's see what others have to say about these images.
Hopefully the forum members will approve or make some positive suggestions.


CCAC studies design ideas for 2027, 2028 platinum coins


By Paul Gilkes , Coin World

Published: Feb 25, 2025, 5 PM


Proposed obverse designs for the Proof 2027 and 2028 American Eagle platinum $100 coins were recommended Feb. 18 by the CCAC.
Images courtesy of the United States Mint.


Proposed designs for the obverses of the Proof 2027 and 2028 American Eagle platinum $100 coins — for the second and third years in the three-coin Charters of Freedom series — were recommended Feb. 18 by the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee.

A proposed obverse for the 2026-dated issue was recommended by the CCAC and the Commission of Fine Arts in separate meetings last October.

Both panels had favored the same set of linked designs for 2026 through 2028 but with some reservations on the designs proposed for 2027 and 2028.

The three-year Charters of Freedom coin series is inspired by the Declaration of Independence, U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights.


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  • erscoloerscolo Posts: 630 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The great classical artists have left our world, and so this is what you get. I do not buy platinum or gold coins, they just cost way too much. A beautiful classic design, however, would seriously cause me to reconsider that stance. Something new yet something classical that shouts out our foundational documents, all three of them, Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the United States of America, and our Bill of Rights. Without them we are nothing.

  • KellenCoinKellenCoin Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭✭

    Hi! I'm not 100% sure what question you are asking me here. If you could clarify I'll let you know my thoughts.

    Thanks!

    Fan of the Oxford Comma
    CCAC Representative of the General Public
    2021 Young Numismatist of the Year

  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,604 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In at least partial defense of the artistic recommendations of CCAC, if all you get to choose from is substandard then the items chosen will be substandard. Essentially, this might be thought of as the old GIGO.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,562 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @KellenCoin said:
    Hi! I'm not 100% sure what question you are asking me here. If you could clarify I'll let you know my thoughts.

    Thanks!

    Hi.

    I understand the concept with the young tree taking root and representing the Constitution for 2007.

    And then the maturing tree with its protective canopy representing rights and freedoms through the Bill of Rights.

    That's all well and good, but if the Mint didn't explain those concepts to me, I would have no idea what the artist was sculpting.

    Maybe I'm a bit naive by wanting art on a U.S. coin to speak to me, but I draw a blank when I view these images.

    Now this 2010-W platinum $100 coin speaks to me. Justice must be blind ergo objective, and this design nails it.

    I love art and if it strikes a chord in me, then the artist did his or her job.

    One of my questions is, are there other design ideas for these coins?

    Is @TomB correct? You are limited in what you can use as design elements?

    To his point, substandard elements?

  • KellenCoinKellenCoin Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭✭

    @Goldbully said:

    @KellenCoin said:
    Hi! I'm not 100% sure what question you are asking me here. If you could clarify I'll let you know my thoughts.

    Thanks!

    Hi.

    I understand the concept with the young tree taking root and representing the Constitution for 2007.

    And then the maturing tree with its protective canopy representing rights and freedoms through the Bill of Rights.

    That's all well and good, but if the Mint didn't explain those concepts to me, I would have no idea what the artist was sculpting.

    Maybe I'm a bit naive by wanting art on a U.S. coin to speak to me, but I draw a blank when I view these images.

    Now this 2010-W platinum $100 coin speaks to me. Justice must be blind ergo objective, and this design nails it.

    I love art and if it strikes a chord in me, then the artist did his or her job.

    One of my questions is, are there other design ideas for these coins?

    Is @TomB correct? You are limited in what you can use as design elements?

    To his point, substandard elements?

    Of course, as you know, art in the eye of the beholder. Different people will have different takes on the numismatic art being released by the Mint; often, the CCAC internally has strong disagreements about which designs are artistically most beautiful. You can see those disagreements in the meeting recordings, transcripts, and occasionally final votes. Some coins and medals will resonate, and some won't. But ultimately, the CCAC will make a recommendation (sometimes with revisions proposed).

    We first saw this particular series at our October 16, 2024 meeting. At that meeting, there were a few different 2026-2028 Platinum Proof series options available for our review. The CCAC is pretty much limited to selecting among the designs we are given; sometimes there are two options and sometimes there are 30. In this case, I remember there being three series options for our consideration. Ultimately, we recommended Series 1, with the nature motifs you have shared above. However, we felt there were a number of artistic elements lacking, and sent the designs for 2027 and 2028 back to the Mint for revisions. It should be noted that both the CCAC and Commission of Fine Arts unanimously recommended that series (plus revisions), so there were at least 18 different people with diverse backgrounds in numismatics, design, curation, history, and sculpture who felt that this series was one worth recommending.

    Then, in our February 18 meeting, the Mint brought us back the revised designs for 2027 and 2028. The CCAC was unanimously content with changes made, and though I have not yet seen the CFA minutes, I am guessing they were too. It's totally fair to want coin art to strike a chord with you, and I agree the 2010 piece you shared is nice - but I wouldn't reject the overall artistic merit of these upcoming pieces (assuming the Secretary does, in fact, take our recommendation).

    Let me know if you have any other questions! I hope this was somewhat helpful.

    Fan of the Oxford Comma
    CCAC Representative of the General Public
    2021 Young Numismatist of the Year

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,678 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i don't understand how the designs depict founding principles

    i see an oak tree -- a common symbol -- and I don't see bill of rights

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,151 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very clever concept for the two coins. If it has to be explained to the viewer, that’s a great educational tool. I’ve forgotten what the recommended declaration coin looks like, does it tie in conceptually?

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome coins.

    Coins & Currency

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