How does one explain this photographic anomaly
JW77
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About 6 weeks ago I acquired this amazing 1920 DE. The tangerine and yellow toning is just amazing to see in hand. Here is a pic that I shared with the forum when I originally acquired the coin.
A few weeks ago I got around to loading the certificate on the PCGS registry and this was the "TrueView" attached to the cert.
When I saw this pic I immediately dismissed it as a mix-up, that is a pic of another DE got mixed up with my cert. I was standing in line the PCGS line at Long Beach last week and pulled up my DE inventory on my IPhone, took another look at the pic and realized this was my DE. Could not believe it. How in earth does a pic this bad end up on a Simpson DE registry set in the PCGS data base.. There are no other pics at PCGS attached to this coin. This is it. It's just puzzling. Thought I would share with the group, and get your opinions what happened. It crossed my mind whether this was a pic before restoration, nah, just bad photography.
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that looks like an old secure plus (non-tv) photo from years back
if there was a recent TV taken, get with the @PCGSPhoto people and get them swapped out
i'll let pcgsphoto tell me if a true TV photo is taken with gold shield, or if it is the same process as the old secure plus (quickie photo)
I'll also note that only the obverse photo is on the cert page
Yep, that's what I was going to say.
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@MsMorrisine @ProofCollection It is a gold shield cert, but I guess a TV was not taken. Regardless, that is a pretty poor photography, TV must of been a huge upgrade!
A gold shield on the back used to indicate Secure Plus.
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i believe pcgs has eraditcated signs of secure plus and replaced the instances of the word secure plus on the cert lookup wi gold shield
Yes, this was one of the first “Secure Plus” images. Contrary to popular belief the secure plus machines were not the so-called “Sniffer”. That was a different thing.
The images the machine took were not particularly well received, and when the service was rebranded as Gold Shield they completely moved to TrueViews in the US and whole-slab photos for overseas offices. This was around 2015 or 2016.
By the way the @PCGSPhoto account was my old account that is no longer active (it would be inappropriate).
Phil Arnold
Director of Photography, GreatCollections
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a good database worker could force a take over of that handle. it's relatively easy
If this is a representative of images that were produced by the PCGS machine, I can see why they were not well received. Your work at Great Collections is much appreciated.
nearly all were not so bad, but they were hustled through and some real losers like that one came out.i have a few. btw, they shot both sides
Keep in mind they were not really intended to to be great photos, it was more about having a security measure than anything else, if I remember right.
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the photos should show the coin in hand. how can a photo securely show the coin if it looks like that?
I'd take a cell phone of the era or a discount point-n-shoot and say the photos should look like they come from them. and most of my sp photos do.
now, how can they use the fingerprinter to detect a stolen coin, then verify it visually with that photo?
that photo is beneath the quality and standards for what the whole sp idea was.
those are loser photos
Those images always reminded me of out-of-focus flat-bed scanner output.
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